Black Waste

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  1. Cyclists

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    Hi,

    Very new to all this but would like to try a touch of wild camping. One thing comes to mind though ...

    What do you do with your black waste when wild camping for more than one night?

    Thanks
     
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    Public toilets....descreetly.
     
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    When out and about, I take a shovel (y) Being a member of the C and CC you can empty your black waste for a small fee apparently, but never needed to yet. :Eeek:
     
  4. Cyclists

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    in the wild?
     
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    takes a week to fill a cassette, public WC bound to be found someplace.
     
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    The obvious answer is to use a site/rally/whatever with proper disposal facilities at least as often as the cassette needs emptying. If the "touch of wild camping" does not allow that then I would suggest that it needs touching up (in a revising sort of way) :LOL:
     
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    wish mine lasted a week.. two days tops..
     
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  8. Cyclists

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    Not obvious to me as my idea of wild is with no facilities and in (my limited) experience the cassette only last 2 days max. Just wondered what people did in this situation.
     
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    dont be tempted to just pee behind a bush and only use the cassette for solids all the time. you will need a tap to break down the build up of poo and flush it out. at least the urine content will keep any solids floating.

    emptying a cassette containing predominantly solids is not a pleasant job. not that it is at other times, just far worse

    if you plan being off grid for more than a couple of days, buy a second cassette
     
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  10. Cyclists

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    That's not a bad idea. Cheers.
     
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    Not really because sooner or later the problem, now twice as big, needs to be solved.

    I bought a folding spade 7 years ago but so far have never needed to use it.

    Have you tried "wild camping" yet ? We've had very limited success. We did find a nice spot on Sky once but I think a road drill would have been needed to dig a hole. Then again a few say how good it is but usually it's not true wild camping and emptying the cassette is a question of lifting a manhole cover.

    Next - how do I get fresh water and how long will my battery last ?
     
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    As I said, use a site/rally/whatever with proper disposal facilities at least as often as the cassette needs emptying. There is no other way of emptying the cassette without polluting wherever you are emptying it to. Emptying a cassette direct to land or drains is not only unacceptable in that it gets us all a bad name, it is also illegal. It might be nice to think one can camp without using an sites but when that is incompatible with responsible waste management then a compromise has to be struck.
     
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    Agreed
     
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    we have a black tank for toilet waste and have the relative luxury of 120 litres of storage, if needed, allowing us to use a good mix of off site and on site, typically 2 days wilding should be ample to comply with the 'rules', it is not intended as a long term option

    We also carry a cassette so we can decant from black tank in emergency or if we cant access a drive over dump point

    My vote goes for the second cassette to reduce any need to hold in what needs to come out :D and look to use sites and wild alternately (y) certainly to empty cassette when ever you get the chance, in Scotland virtually all the ferry terminals have a dump point that can be accessed even if not travelling (y)(y) particularly useful on the Outer Hebrides :)
     
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    one point to remember, and its been a problem locally, the gulleys at the side of roads are often not connected to the main sewers. We get a fair few motorhomes free loading (as opposed to real wild camping) and tipping black waste in inapropriate places like roadside gullies and digging holes in the beach. that is a major reason for new banning orders.

    you could always do what certain parts of the travelling community do, and just tip it in hedges or rivers etc
     
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    Similar to sheep, foxes, badgers, cows, horses then. Give or take a bit of toilet paper. If fact I've yet to see a cow considerate enough to crap in a hedge.
     
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    Thats disgusting and you shouldn't do it ..illegal or not.
     
  18. Cyclists

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    well thanks guys ...I'll ponder on it ...still like the second cassette idea though.
     
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    Of course. That is what I was trying to say, together with the need to plan as necessary for emptying :)
     
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    I carry a second cassette but only needed it once so far, but this year I have found quite a few portaloos beside road works/ lay-bys and building sites, obviously I would only use if easily accessible and with permission if people were around:D I use no chemical so no problem with cesspit,
    My cassette fits into a rucksack so you could easily walk into any public WCs if needed without rousing suspicions by the anti camping brigade,
    I also carry a radar key in case they are locked but making sure it's left cleaner than when I arrived,
     
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