Black waste dump advice needed please

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  1. phodetheus

    phodetheus Read Only Funster

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    With taking delivery of our RV in the next few weeks I was wondering what people do about dumping black waste at sites.

    When I am booking a site what should I be asking them about dumping my black waste or is this generally not an issue?

    Many thanks

    Gary
     
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    Parcverger Funster - Campsite Owner

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    We always found that it was best to ask as some sites are not geared up for RVs waste disposal. If you are booked onto a full service pitch you should have no problems but still check. As ex-RVers we knew what was needed so all of our full service pitches have drain points for black and grey waste water. Make sure that you have ample hose 3" and, if you have a macerator, 1" - 2 x 20m of 3" would be best (make sure you have connectors to join them), and you can get a long flat hose for the macerator. You will not need that length here, but we visited some sites where it was.
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    We've not found many sites with black waste drain points on the pitch and either drive to that point to dump waste when we are leaving or if staying a while we bought a portable waste tote which we use.
     
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    When I first got my Classic Hymer 660S I worried about the black water emptying but soon had developed a list of all the places I could do the deed. So now I am fine.

    However, after getting a demonstration of a properly fitted and prepared macerator system by Nigel (Sundowners) at Malvern a little while back, I saw that that was the very best way to go, if you have the space.

    He just winds out an ordinary looking hose pipe and pops the end in a loo or dumping tank (it can even go uphill) and presses the buttons.

    The macerator does its work and he is sorted for another few weeks. Brilliant.

    If I were to get a biggish RV with a holding tank it would be the first thing I got fitted (after the Pie cupboard of course).

    JJ :cool:
     
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    Don't know anything about macerators but sounds worth checking out, thanks JJ
     
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    Hi - I often use fully serviced pitches - but never yet found one that includes drainage for the black tank. Here in uk I think fully serviced means there is hookup and a standpipe tap, with a drain cover underneath, and they will magnanimously let you drain grey water through the grating, but its certainly not ideal, and the black tank still needs to be emptied at the motorhome service point.

    I went off on my first trip with no hose pipe for water and about 5ft length of hose for black and similar for grey, with the result I couldn't reach most places. I have only ever found one proper drive over emptying station - which was great / grate! :) :)

    I now have a selection of RhinoHoze which I find far less trouble than the macerator I bought before starting and found too heavy and awkward for me to use comfortably. Plus the lay flat hose which was supplied with it is a nightmare when you are emptying on your own.

    But if you are fit it would probably be fine.
     
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    I have a little used macerator and some pipe,not lay flat though, here with me in Cabanas that I will let go for a small consideration if you(or anyone else)are interested.
     
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    As said

    The RV tank is large enough to not worry about emptying every day or week, sometimes you just have to carry it around until the opportunity arises.

    The c&cc have a day rate that allows emptying and refil for a small charge, but we do not generally have a problem, just have two rhino hoses that get is sorted in most places. Most sites even if there is not a dedicated dump, a quiet friendly word to the warden will find a sewer cover than can be lifted


    Adrian
     
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    We bought rhino hoses too as they are so much better
     
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    This is why we said always ask - but if you are in France and visit us, you'll be able to do just that - grey and black water into a drain on your pitch. As Rvers we knew this was a key point, and you can dump all liquids in the motorhome service point and all full service pitches here.
    Bob
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    AS JJ pointed out ------a Macerator and 3/4" hose in several lengths is all you need----------lay-flat is too much hassle I reckon-----We did use a 3" hose for GROUND LEVEL dumps--Alas our latest van has no black, we miss it badly:(
    Nigel & Pamala
     
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    I hope to have a 5th wheel RV in the next few months and I plan to get a composting separater system they call it Natures Head. You them use your black tank as an extra gray tank. This will give me more capacity before having to empty. In my case I will have a capacity of about 70 gal of gray. The liquid side you empty in any toilet every few days and the compost bit (solids) you use any compost area every month or so. Look it up on YouTube.
     
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    Mines got a big onboard waste tank but in times of no dump i use an aquaroll waste carrier it`s not ideal but I have emptied both tanks into , making several trips to the dump point. A lot of campsites don`t cater for RVs so can be a problem :(:(:(:(:(:(
     
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    No Black Dump at ground level? You need a Waste carrier. I have (had) a Fiamma roll tank. which I (could) fill and empty every couple of days or so. I made a tow rig which allowed me to tow it behind SWMBO`s Mobility scooter!. We also had a Macerator, which was probably the best device providing you can reach a "Sewer".

    Note:- You have to be careful, but SOME Spanish sites which have "grey" outlets on the pitch are combined and actually exit into the foul sewer!! MACERATED Effluent could be disposed of that way too???. (not that I have actually done it of course!).

    Take no notice of the r-v in the avtar, That was in the USA where most if not all pitches HAVE sewers, and water and power!!.

    Pete.
     
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    We spend most of our time on CL type sites. Learnt very early on that needed something to get said waste from A to B, Got a bit of a strange system on our van, black waste tank, shower/kitchen grey tank and a tank the same size just for the handbasin in the bathroom. All three have separate valves but come out the same pipe.

    I have the shower/kitchen valve open whilst on site draining into one of these which I then empty each day, or when required.
    www.johnscross.co.uk/products/wastemaster-waste-water-tank.html

    I then use one of these to empty the black into, about once a week 4 containers full.
    www.johnscross.co.uk/products/fiamma-roll-tank-40-litre-grey-waste-tank.html

    I think in 7 years using the van I have only ever used a drive over black point maybe twice.
     
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    The more I think about this black tank the more the Natures head composting toilet sounds like a great idea. To empty this tank is going to be a problem at times I am sure. The composting toilet makes it easy. The idea of having to empty a small cassette type every two or three days is still not good. To empty the liquid bottle only into the black tank seems a much better idea.
     
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    You really don't seem to be too sure! I've used a large RV in the States and the tree inch pipe we had to connect there worked fine, but I'm totally happy with my cassette thank you.

    Nice to see this old thread back up and running, you can't get enough Black waste threads
     
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    @Jim Is hardcore! I've seen him slop out using a bucket :Eeek:

    I normally dump at home, but I own a campsite lol so it is slightly different.

    Our campsite is not on mains sewerage so we have a chemical treatment plant for our amenity block which we do not use for chemical toilets. They are emptied in to holding tanks which we in turn pay to be emptied.:crying:

    Consequently if a RV comes in for one night and wants to dump the black tank we make a charge to cover our costs. If an RV is staying a few days we are happy to let them use the dump facility without an extra charge.

    Conversely, if some one wants to decant their poo into a Tote tank or similar and empty in the European dump we have no issue with that, as people only then tend to do what is necessary, and not run backwards and forwards to the dump with a load of grey water that can be disposed of easier.

    In essence if you turn up with 30 -40 gallons of black waste accumulated somewhere else and dump that followed by 30 -40 gallons of grey waste to flush it all out and stay one night, we are actually out of pocket, hence our policy.

    I have just asked in the office and we pay £148.00 per 1000 gallons, so £0.15 a gallon So as I say, an RV coming in with full tanks, not staying a few nights would be charged to use our dump facility, or could decant for free.

    A lot of the more modern continental sites have super pitches, and we personally tend to favour the sites in the UK that have city water, black and grey dump facilities on the pitch. These sites tend to be more expensive, but as Lyn and I still work, holidays and weekends away tend to focus more on comfort and relaxation over than cost as they are few and far between

    Good luck with your new RV, there are many of us on the forum that have had many RV's over the years so if you need any help just yell

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    ask at most campsites and they may allow you to empty down a sewer manhole.
    up to now its worked ok for us
     

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