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savantuk

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I've always been at a bit of a loss as to how to secure my bikes when away from the pitch - there's not always a stout fence or a tree to padlock the frames to.

I bought a large screw in post, designed to attach a dog lead too. It's quite hefty, about 1/4" in diameter, and about a foot long. I then padlock both bikes to the loop at the top. If anybody wanted to unscrew it, they would have to pick up the bike, or bikes before they could turn it out - just abbout impossible!!

Not foolproof, of course, but it would certainly make a thief think twice, or even thrice!!

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Good idea unless its a Itinerant with a boly cutter but then if a thief wants it, nowt stops them.

Peter

That's a fact Peter.. we had one stolen on the aire at Capbreton, almost brand new Trek mountain bike, it was secured using a steel wire hawser .. which I thought that would need an oxy / acetylene torch to cut through .. on another occasion the scum stole a saddle.. damn these quick release fittings.. and on a third occasion, a guy simply walked up, jumped on and drove off while my son was standing guard .. in broad daylight, outside Lidl in Roquetas, Spain.:Angry:

My advice, leave your nice expensive cycles at home and take old rusty boot sale ones.. good bikes are just too attractive and the thief is watching, just waiting for you to relax your guard..

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I wasn't proposing that this is a solution to bike theft, and even the theft of your rusty old steed, whatever it's value, can be damned inconvinient and certainly unhelpful.

This method does offer some security if the bikes are left on site.
 

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I wasn't proposing that this is a solution to bike theft, and even the theft of your rusty old steed, whatever it's value, can be damned inconvinient and certainly unhelpful.

This method does offer some security if the bikes are left on site.

Not knocking your idea Doug .. it is better than leaving them with nothing and would deter the opportunist.

The point I was making is that bike theft is rife and if they want `YOUR' bike.. they will have it.. make no mistake.

On another occasion at the same aire we saw an old bike lying against the fence. After a few days it became clear that it had been left by accident and the owner couldn't be bothered coming back .. it was still there several weeks later .. no one wanted it..

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The way I look at it if somebody wants it they will get it no matter what you do it comes down to the damage they do getting it. I normally tie 2 bikes together as they would look stupid running down the road with them

Reading scotjims reply reminds me when a lad asked my son for a go on his bike and guess what yes he disapeared on it. Seen the bike 3 months later and could the lad run who had it

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Not knocking your idea Doug .. it is better than leaving them with nothing and would deter the opportunist.

The point I was making is that bike theft is rife and if they want `YOUR' bike.. they will have it.. make no mistake.

On another occasion at the same aire we saw an old bike lying against the fence. After a few days it became clear that it had been left by accident and the owner couldn't be bothered coming back .. it was still there several weeks later .. no one wanted it..

jim

I'm not disagreeing with you either jim, I know that whatever measures you take, if someone is determined enough........

An extract from my reply on the Brompton thread, of 11/11......

My last Brompton was stolen from outside the Gaasperplas Metro station in Amsterdam. It was chained, with my wifes 'bike in a bag', to a tubular steel bike tack bolted to the pavement. It was chained with two HIGH SECURITY chains with 1/4" hardened links and an unpickable Abus lock. The thieves cut through the tubular steel rack and took both bikes. The whole thing was recorded on a security camera. Nobody seemed to notice??
 

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The thieves cut through the tubular steel rack and took both bikes. The whole thing was recorded on a security camera. Nobody seemed to notice??

Yes Doug, I recall your post, the thing is, if you saw someone cutting a chain off a bike would you intervene ?
Frankly, I doubt if I would, you could end up dead .. it's just not worth the risk .. :Sad:

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Its a shame but its the way of the world now unfortunately, all you can do is make someone else's an easier bet, then hope for the best. Looks a good idea to me though, at least they might look elsewhere, with luck.


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Yes Doug, I recall your post, the thing is, if you saw someone cutting a chain off a bike would you intervene ?


jim

Depends on the size and age of the perpetrator... if it was a slim 6 year old, I wouldn't hesitate!! (well, I'd probably hesitate long enough to make sure he didn't have any bigger friends) I'm brave I am!!:ROFLMAO:
 

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My mates uses a great method for securing his bike, he has an allen key on his keyring when he locks it up he also loosens the handlbars and spins them round till the tension pulls on the brake cables and locks the brakes, he has it adjusted so the handle bars are 90 degrees to where they should be when he tightens everything up again meaning its impossible to ride even with the brakes off!! :winky:

He also locks it with a cheap combination lock but uses this method all the time, lives in the centre of London uses the bike every day and had the same bike for 3 years (and its not a cheap bike!!!). ::bigsmile:

The other favorite and going back to Jims loathing of quick release systems is to remove a wheel and the saddle and put em in the van :thumb:
 
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I'm not disagreeing with you either jim, I know that whatever measures you take, if someone is determined enough........

An extract from my reply on the Brompton thread, of 11/11......

My last Brompton was stolen from outside the Gaasperplas Metro station in Amsterdam. It was chained, with my wifes 'bike in a bag', to a tubular steel bike tack bolted to the pavement. It was chained with two HIGH SECURITY chains with 1/4" hardened links and an unpickable Abus lock. The thieves cut through the tubular steel rack and took both bikes. The whole thing was recorded on a security camera. Nobody seemed to notice??


Last year I was in centre of Amsterdam and witnessed over 20 bikes with chain/wire locks being taken! These were not taken by thiefs but by council and police they, just used angle grinder to unsecure bikes and then threw them into a truck for disposal. It appears that you just can't park bikes where you like:cry:

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my bike was stolen from clumber park cc site, they cut through 2 chains and burnt off all the straps:Angry: insurance wouldnt cover the bike. i later found it on flea bay told police the guy got £100 fine, not bad for a 3 grand bike:Angry: £2900 profit no wonder they arnt bothered about knicking them. and i still didnt get it back.
 

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savantuk You got so near the right answer - lock a dog onto the pole, as well...

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There was an article in a cycling magazine some years ago where they locked a bike to a city-centre fence.
Then, they repeatedly went and 'stole' the bike, just to see if anyone noticed.

They were increasingly brazen about it, until they were strolling up with a huge pair of bolt cutters, looking as much like crooks as possible.
Not one person in the busy street did anything about it, not even reporting it to the police or security guards who were wandering around.

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There was an article in a cycling magazine some years ago where they locked a bike to a city-centre fence.
Then, they repeatedly went and 'stole' the bike, just to see if anyone noticed.

They were increasingly brazen about it, until they were strolling up with a huge pair of bolt cutters, looking as much like crooks as possible.
Not one person in the busy street did anything about it, not even reporting it to the police or security guards who were wandering around.

Not just bikes, crooks are brazen enough to drive up to a house with a removal van and empty the contents.. no one bats an eyelid :Sad:

When Jan worked in Sainburys a 'customer' walked out with a TV with the assistance of a member of staff .. think he lost his job :roflmto:

Another example, I stupidly locked the car keys in the boot.. I then proceeded to 'break in' .. took me ages and eventually retrieved the keys by removing the back seat.. no one blinked an eye or said anything .. all done in a busy car park..

The more brazen you are the more likely you are to get away with it..
 
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Remeber quite a few years ago I worked a Saturday job in a large Department store in the centre of Glasgow, a couple of guys drove into the loading bay handed the bay manager a load of papers then proceeded to load six three piece suites into the van before driving off, you guessed it they were thieves :cry:
 

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