Bike racks and weight limits?

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  1. Scattycat

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    On our bike rack it has a lable stating a 60kg weight limit, but I can't find any information in the Rapido manual as to the max weight that the mountings on the van will take.
    Any ideas or where I can find the information?
    The 2 electric bikes we have weigh a total of 55kg
     
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    55Kg might be pushing it a bit, but you'd take the batteries off and remove the seats wouldn't you? You don't want them to be attractive to a thief.
    I've heard of an immigrant getting under the covers of a rack to try and gain free entry. They were discovered, with no mention of damage to the rack, so they'll clearly take more than what's stated.
     
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    Personally wouldn't load a bike rack to maximum weight..

    it may well be rated at 60kg static load.. but when you go over a speed bump, or a ferry ramp, the static load becomes a dynamic load, several times greater than the static load .. depending on bump.. by a factor of 3 or more.. so your 55kg bikes become 165 kg.

    it's not unknown for rear walls to be ripped off by bike racks. ..

    It was the reason I bought a van with a garage
     
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    more thoughts..

    lifting an electric bike onto a rear rack is not an easy job .. an alternative is a towbar bike rack such as Thule make..

    they are solid and will carry two electric bikes with ease and are not high off the ground.. so no heavy lifting..

    I had one when I had the RV and sold to an other funster

    this one takes three bikes ..total load 75 kg

    https://www.thule.com/en/gb/product...ke-carriers/thule-euroclassic-g6-928-_-928003
     
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    As stated above. 55kg is pushing it a bit. I see vans with 4 bikes on sometimes. They could be well over Fiammas 60kg limit. That poor van wall. I have a wisper 905 e bike at home and it's still fairly heavy without the battery. Good luck
     
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    just to illustrate dynamic loading..

    kitchen scales with 2lb static load

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    same weight, scales being moved up an down gently .. load increases to 6lb +

     
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    Surely, if they supply a rack labelled 60kg then you can put 60kg on it or tell them to repair it if it falls off.

    Different matter with an after-market fit, I followed a PVC with a rack mounted on the rear door and watched the door bend over every bump. The owner had to brace the rack with wood after he had straightened the door.

    Our Burstner has an aluminium bar full width of the vehicle that the rack hangs off, I guess that has enough screws to take the load. Well it's still hanging there after Moroccan roads.
     
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    Jim,
    Agree with your sentiments but I think the one you 'linked' to has a max capacity of 51kg
     
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    I'm sure the makes understand this. If you carry on with this logic then do you de-rate the payload because the suspension will go over a bump ?
     
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    strange .. didn't see that .. I read the pargarph on the right that says ..
    • Loading capacity 25 kg per bike, enabling transport of lighter E-bikes/Pedelecs.
     
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    If original equipment, it's not ( or should not be ) attached to "the wall" but to strengthened framework within the wall.
     
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    If a rack has a 60kg weight limit then 55kg is perfectly fine. The rack will have been tested to at least double that weight. The Fiamma rack has been designed in collaboration with the moho manufacturers and therefore you can be confident that the mounting points are designed for considerably more than the 60kg maximum. The people who make these things know that if a bike rack falls off and causes an accident they will be held liable and the damages could run to millions. For that reason they make absolutely sure that the limit they put on it is very very safely within the actual limitations of the rack. On the other hand, if you actually exceed the specified load then on your own head be it.
     
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    just as they understand making a motorhome watertight ? .. doesn't seem difficult...

    but forums are full of leaky van stories.. you have more faith than I have !

    in any case.. I said what I wouldn't do..

    others must decide for themselves..
     
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    Jim,
    Even more confused now as purely out of interest I have downloaded the user manual pdf and my brain is going number the more I read it. Would appreciate your view. I have (I think) uploaded the relevant page as a pdf but if it wont load, it is page three of the user manual on the page you linked to.
     

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    The data is confusing to be sure.. but it looks like it's max carry weight is 51kg .. and the weight of any single bike is 25kg ..
     
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    ATTENTION ATTENTION - MOVING GOAL POSTS - STAY WELL CLEAR.
     
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    moving no goal posts..

    it was you who moved them...:rolleyes:

    but fail to see your point.. I gave my opinion.. others can form their own without trying to make a mockery of someone else's..:(


    end of story..
     
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    They will at least be capable of the sum of bike rack and bike rack loading. Is yours fitted to the Rapido fixing points? i.e. OFF CENTRE
    You could just ask Anthony Pfaff but I cannot imagine him saying any different.
    That rear wall is designed to also accommodate a ladder and a big fat bloke
     
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    Manufacturers of bike racks do I believe understand that their rack is not going to be stationery when they apply their weight limits.
    A 60kg limit is including driving along.

    You are implying that you can put 60kg on it as long as you never go anywhere.
     
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    I gave my view Andy, and an explanation why I held it .. you disagree that's fine by me..
     
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