Beem deflectetors mot faluer (1 Viewer)

[Techno]

Our old hymer (1985 and lhd) passed mot tests until 2 years ago,then the mot centre decided that I had to have UK headlights.They were quite hard to find,but eventually I got new looking units,and they passed it.
When we got to Cherbourg that year I fitted beam deflectors ,
And they have remained in place ever since.
Frankly I do not understand why they made me do it,but since I
Avoid night driving after a horror trip through Madrid it makes little difference to me personally,but I still wonder at the bureaucratic madness.
I do not profess to know the correctness of it,but it has always seemed to me that the original German lights with beam deflectors were probably a better solution .?

Now this is my point. Surely they cannot make this retrospective as often RHD headlights are no longer produced.
Mine passed mid April so clearly there are testers who know the rules and those who just don't !

 

[Barclaybasher]

To be blunt the Ducato headlights that Bill has are similar to the Renault ones I have (1991)..they are so sh*t useless you'd be lucky to pick out the cats eyes (remember them?), never mind dazzle anyone, whichever side of the road

.... more likely to be dazzled by a cyclist with one of those ridiculous led lights !!!!

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[vwalan]

daf 45 trucks use them as well. i believe daf can supply rhd lights but expensive . lots trucks now have the lhd lights with deflectors and i havent heard of a vosa test station failing them yet. it might happen but not so far.

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[glastry]

My lights were excellent (in my opinion) until I fitted the UK ones and the beam deflectors .

 

[Barclaybasher]

My lights were excellent (in my opinion) until I fitted the UK ones and the beam deflectors .

I struggle to workout whether my lights are on or off !!

 

[DuxDeluxe]

You couldn't educat that moron
Bill

Fair comment but it makes me wonder why you went there in the first place......

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[Wildbill]

Fair comment but it makes me wonder why you went there in the first place......

He is local and and though I would give him a chance he has had his chance
Bill

 

[Techno]

He is local and and though I would give him a chance he has had his chance
Bill

But that means paying twice

 

[Wildbill]

But that means paying twice

Yes but he won't be getting any more of my business.
I do like to give my money to local businesses but sum you just can't help could have put a bit of business his way his loss
Bill

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[Wildbill]

Surely the threat of reporting him for malpractice would wake him up?

He will get his mystery car I am sure
Bill

 

[Techno]

Place I use "Moderna MOT LTD" only do mot's so its their business and know the score.
I travel 36 miles from home for the two cars and 17 miles for the van (each way). It's worth the travel for the professionalism and honesty

 

[Wildbill]

Place I use "Moderna MOT LTD" only do mot's so its their business and know the score.
I travel 36 miles from home for the two cars and 17 miles for the van (each way). It's worth the travel for the professionalism and honesty

I will use the council one next week thay are strict but know what thay are doing
Bill

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[Techno]

I will use the council one next week thay are strict but know what thay are doing
Bill

Yes I like strict

 

[Wildbill]

Yes I like strict

I do a lot of miles I like things to be right if I get a advisory I fix them within a few days of the the mot
I had three last year before I even went for a trip I had them sorted
One thing he did say was it's a very well mentaned Van for its age
Bill

 

[Techno]

I do a lot of miles I like things to be right if I get a advisory I fix them within a few days of the the mot
I had three last year before I even went for a trip I had them sorted
One thing he did say was it's a very well mentaned Van for its age
Bill

Reply it would be a lovely stress free pleasure to own if you did yer flippin job right

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[Jaws]

It's a very old Van thay are glass lenses a bit of net wind screen washer remove the rest only thing is I can't remember Ware to fit them back on

I bought a pair of standard rhd lights from my local car parts shop.. Cost £42 a side.. That was two years ago and I know they are still available for your van Bill

 

[gus-lopez]

Sorry lost internet until a short while ago.
Try here .
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Mike has new ones. £38-90 each

 

[Geo]

Correct but try doing it without instructions I've seen plenty very badly fitted of both varieties.
I meant they fitted beam benders as though the headlights were RHD. This occurred due to using those headlight protectors and putting the vinyl tape where marked on them

Interesting comments
The boys on the Numpty to Nermburg all bought varying make of I prefer to call them masks
even with instructions and Mot testing equipment we could not see them do anything like they claimed

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[Techno]

All mine do is level the beam out. I rarely drive in the dark but when I have they have been more than adequate once I'd thrown away the headlight protectors that the previous owner fitted. They had even gone yellow which made it worse

 

[Wildbill]

I bought a pair of standard rhd lights from my local car parts shop.. Cost £42 a side.. That was two years ago and I know they are still available for your van Bill

whare did you get them john i have ben to my local car part shop and fiat delers.
and all i get is no longer avalibil
bill

 

[Techno]

whare did you get them john i have ben to my local car part shop and fiat delers.
and all i get is no longer avalibil
bill

Gus posted a link to some rhd

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[Jaws]

whare did you get them john i have ben to my local car part shop and fiat delers.
and all i get is no longer avalibil
bill

All I did was go to my local parts shop Bill.. They were not on the shelf but I collected them the next day

But the links Gus put up are all good too mate

 

[Jaws]

Forgot to mention..
If you get offered just the lenses that is good too.
Remove your old headlights and warm them up with water out of the hot water tap
When as warm as possible put in a bowl and pore boiling water over them straight from the kettle
You should then be able to lift off the old lenses with a bit of effort
Place the new ones on the old shell and using a hot glue gun glue them in place

Mind you, thinking about it, if you'rs are still the original units there is every chance the buggers are held in with mastic.. not so easy to deal with.
I just smash the buggers tease off the bits with a screw driver and then proceed with the glue gun !

 

[Wildbill]

Sorry lost internet until a short while ago.
Try here .
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Mike has new ones. £38-90 each

i will give him a ring maybe he has but when i tryed him last year he could not get them maybe he has maneged to get sum old stock
bill

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[Wildbill]

All I did was go to my local parts shop Bill.. They were not on the shelf but I collected them the next day

But the links Gus put up are all good too mate

i use mike last year had forgoten all abut him hes not answering his mobil will ring him monday
cheers bill

 

[Wildbill]

Forgot to mention..
If you get offered just the lenses that is good too.
Remove your old headlights and warm them up with water out of the hot water tap
When as warm as possible put in a bowl and pore boiling water over them straight from the kettle
You should then be able to lift off the old lenses with a bit of effort
Place the new ones on the old shell and using a hot glue gun glue them in place

Mind you, thinking about it, if you'rs are still the original units there is every chance the buggers are held in with mastic.. not so easy to deal with.
I just smash the buggers tease off the bits with a screw driver and then proceed with the glue gun !

think i know whar i can get sum lenses if the backs are the same this could solve my problem
bill

 

[Jaws]

think i know whar i can get sum lenses if the backs are the same this could solve my problem
bill

Yes Bill.. from memory ALL the backs are the same for your model mate

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[gus-lopez]

i use mike last year had forgoten all abut him hes not answering his mobil will ring him monday
cheers bill

I found that he never answers but rings you back at the end of the day.

 

[Techno]

They are in stock because I just added a pair to my basket for immediate payment by Paypal

 

[Geo]

YOUR NEW REASONS FOR REJECTION
With new diagram
No 1 Cracked me up
1. The beam image contains a ‘Kick-up’that is not visible on the screen.
(If it's not visible on the screen, How do I know it's got one?????)

2.For headlamps with centres
not more than 850mm from the
ground the beam image
horizontal cut-off is not between
the horizontal 0.5% and 2.75% lines.

3.For headlamps with centres
more than
850 mm from the
ground, the beam image
horizontal cut-off is not between
the horizontal 1.25% and 2.75%lines.4.White light shows in the zone
formed by the 0% vertical
and 0.5% horizontal lines.

Also the exact wording re headlamp masks


Masks or converter kits may befitted to right hand dip headlamps to
temporarily alter the lamp for use in
the UK
by removing the beam ‘kick-up’to the right.
A headlamp altered in this way is not a
reason for rejection, if:
a.the headlamp aim is not rejected for
the reasons listed under diagram 1(except that the top of the beam
image will be a straight line)

b.the light output is not unduly
reduced - not usually a problem
with commercially produced kits

c.the mask or converter is securely
attached.

Rightly or wrongly, I interpret the inclusion of the word "temporarily"
to mean that UK registered vehicle with right hand headlamp corrected with masks are a failure because their use is permanent and therefore unacceptable
As I read it I also think it is retrospective, if that was not the intention, then cut of dates would have been included

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