Barriers on car parks in skeg

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  1. alan

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    Barriers have gone up on all main car parks in Skeg,I'm not sure how it will be implemented as the car park in the photo has the motor home parking behind it
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    They don't look like they can be raised either, to allow legit M/home parking
     
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    Bearing in mind this my nearest piece of sandy coast is it any surprise that I won't be spending any time or money in Skegness? .

    Feckless councillors overseeing a shambles for more years than you would think possible.
     
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    it is a shame that narrow minded seaside councils in this country find it necessary to alienate motorhome holiday makers, we just go and spend our cash elsewhere, (like France).
     
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    Not narrow minded or feckless. This is a direct result of traveller incursions in the last two years which forced closure of the car parks and have cost the taxpayers of East Lindsey council money to resolve - money which could have been spent on real services. In addition, problems were caused for both residents and visitors.

    As mentioned in This thread, this morning, there are half a dozen car/coach parks in East Lindsay district (including one in Skegness) where motorhomes may be parked, in addition to on street parking.
     
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    Not really reckless or narrow minded councils.
    This is the end result of motorhomers taking the Mickey, regarding these parks as free camp sites and the dunes as chemical toilet dumps.
    Abuse of these car parks, which deprives others of a proper intended use, has brought this on as a last resort.
    They are car parks, not free camp sites.
    A classic case of the few spoiling it for the many.

    It generally isn't the case that local businesses lose out by not having motorhomes parking there.
    Many take all they need with them, a cheap holiday is the whole point of freeloading.
    Car owners and day trippers spend money, too.
    Possibly more so where chippies, cafes etc. are concerned.
     
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    the answer is to give the police greater powers to move illegal travellers on to traveller sites (that all councils presumably have to provide) not penalise genuine motorhome users.
     
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    Roger, the problem isn't just travellers as such.
    It is genuine motorhome users, but freeloading ones who want something for nothing with local council tax payers ( like me) paying for cleaning up the mess of rubbish, grey and black water dumping.
    Rather than being anything into the area in terms of income, they put spenders off visiting.
     
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    There are actually two related problems.
    1. Huttoft and the other coastal parks. Lincolnshire County Council have suffered problems from individual motorhomers and others ignoring no camping regulations.
    2. Skegness car parks. East Lindsey District Council have suffered incursions from groups of travellers who think it is OK to camp where they like for weddings and the like.

    Both cause problems and expense for residents and deter visitors.
     
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    Welcome to Devon &Cornwall!
     
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    Rodger. The council are not required to provide traveller sites. This was the case in the 1960s then it was removed it was later replaced 1980s and then removed again. There are authorities with none or only one or two pitches. Councils do not provide sites for itinerant travellers, they want to settle the traveller population into sites and remove their lifestyle. This has been made worse by travellers from the Irish Republic and the continent adding to the indigenous itinerant population roaming the UK.

    Another point is that a large number of those invading property, have fixed sites or even houses so are not really itinerant. They are tourists, but claim to have the right to follow the old ways.
     
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    Not quite so John.
    Housing Act 2004 S225(1) - Every local housing authority must, when undertaking a review of housing needs in their district under section 8 of the Housing Act 1985 (c. 68), carry out an assessment of the accommodation needs of gypsies and travellers residing in or resorting to their district.
    Together with Planning Circular 01/2006, Planning for Gypsy and Traveller Caravan Sites (since updated by the ‘National Planning Policy Framework’ in 2012), the 2004 Act put in place a framework which means every local authority has to identify land for the sites that are needed in its area.
    Some sites are residential only but some include transit facilities as well (e.g. Redcar & Cleveland).
     
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    John I could say exactly the same about all of the tourist who flood into the west country every year making our water rates etc the highest in the country. I pay top dollar here tourist don't, hence I pay my way and am NOT A BLOODY FREELOADER I have always wild parked and never been irresponsible about black or grey waste let alone rubbish. I do find the constant belittling of wilders such as myself to be a little wearing. I do not want to park surrounded by screaming kids on a site or have to put up with blaring Metalica (good luck to those who do). How I motorhome is my choice. Please don't keep knocking it, I don't knock the way you choose to use your MH.
     
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    So crack down on the culprits don't take the easy way out like they always do.

    & also to allow the immediate destruction of all & any without number plates.
     
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    Spent a week at North Shore caravan site last August and cycled in to watch the bowls finals every day . We had the misfortune to witness a large group of campers taking over the carpark at the end of the prom all with newish motorhomes and many with Irish accents , there were children running amok , rubbish everywhere , loud music , toilet tanks emptied in the bushes and they hadn,t even paid the parking charge . We witnessed the ejection and clean up by the council and the erection of barriers and private security staff all paid by the council.
    It must be very difficult for local residents to differentiate between responsible motorhomers and these freeloading SCUM
     
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    The out of town car parks are a different entity they've been abused by a few motorhomers and barriers were put up and overnightparking stopped, this is now being enforced by a security company and barriers.
    Town car parks have allways been pay and lots of motorhomes park up for the day contributing to East Lindsey's coffers, saying that they can park on streets is a load of rubbish,most of the streets are limited to 30 mins and in the season you'd have a struggle to park a mini.The only Parking I can think of that is easy to park for a motorhome is tescos 3 hours and lidl 1 :1/2 hours, I believe the bus station is £15 a day but I would have to check on that image.jpg
     
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    Not the easy way out, the practical way out. The way that works in the overall public interest - which spending a lot of money to provide facilities for a few does not often achieve.
     
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    You must have missed my earlier post (#5 above) and link to the other thread on this subject, Alan. Motorhomes can be parked in Richmond Drive coach park, Skegness for £7.00 a day. See the Interactive Map (tick the Motorhome box).
     
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    This, and similar incidents, is the reason ELDC has acted as it has. To do otherwise would put too high a burden on the local taxpayers, businesses and other visitors.
     
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    Roger,
    Tourists pay their way in terms of paying for accommodation, food and facilities.
    We are talking here about travellers and your genuine motorhomers alike, who contribute nothing and want to pay nothing.
    I never said you specifically were a freeloader, but what else are these people?
    Wild camping is just that...Wild.
    There is nothing wild about a car parking facility provided at someone else's expense and hijacked for free.
    Relevant question:
    As a site owner, do you want folk to use your site or is it ok for them to camp out for a week for free in a seaside car park provided by your poll tax money, deterring cash customers from the area in the process?

    Don't knock tourists to the West Country, mate.
    Without them the area is banjaxed good style.

    We have a different take on these issues when they are on our doorsteps and we are paying out for no return.

    Having a MH doesn't give us the right to do as we wish at other folks' expense.
     
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