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  1. wizzer59

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    Hi all

    Just been perusing fleabay and came across this 2005 Swift Motorhome Freestyle Fiat Caravan Diesel on eBay (end time 28-Sep-09 21:24:10 BST) can't be right surly????:Eeek:

    Tim
     
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  2. pappajohn

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    Mmmm!!!! yet another scam.

    £6500 for a 4 year old van :Doh:

    their username doesnt exist on ebay find people and the feedback score takes you to an error page on ebay.
     
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    So....Who's going to be the first one to press the "BUY IT NOW" button?........................:Doh:

    Buyer Beware....
     
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    Hi pappajohn
    Thats what I thought but do ebay not moniter what is going on on their site:Doh: surly if its obvious to us then it must be obvious to them:thumb:

    Tim
     
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    Got to be scam that two in one week
     
  6. pappajohn

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    thats the problem.....its not on ebay.
    its a copycat website.
    thats why theres no record of the username on ebay and no feed back record.
     
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    if you put the item No into ebay search it returns as an ended listing for a sat finder.:Eeek:
     
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    Mmmm ok but we can all see it in the listings and why make it so cheap it stands out as not kosher?

    Tim
     
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    Its a DEFINITE SCAM

    Let me help here, its a SCAM be warned...im after buying myself a motorhome and been looking at ebay and seen this on a few occasions. Ive contacted ebay a number of times about this and they dont understand whats going on technically..

    Let me explain whats happening!! You see the item within a list of other motorhomes and you click on the motorhome.. Yes I know the feeling, its a bargain isnt it....£20k Motorhome for £6k or whatever...

    This then takes you to the page detail of the motorhome.. however if you look carefully, what it actually does is perform an immediate redirect (the page flicks) to another web site. To those without knoweldege of Internet (please see below about my experience) what is happening is that the web page you are directed to, although looking exactly like ebay, is NOT ebay. its someone who has replicated the graphics exactly and placed it on another web domain name outside of ebay They also add the nice scam elements requiring you to be pre approved etc. Anything you see here is not Ebay..it just looks like it

    If you want to be able to spot this (like I spot it) another give away is the item number.

    This is the Item number 220486444534 of a scam listing which then redirects to a scam page and suddenly becomes item number 220486444533. Of course they are similar but note the last digit...there is sometimes also a slight change in the used id.



    im doing my best with ebay (ive reported problem 5 times now) but they dont act fast enough to my requests so that sometimes the redirect is removed before ebay look at it...

    If anyone requires further details of whats going on please feel to pm me or e-mail but please dont contact them. Please also spread the word and if anyone has a direct line to ebay let me know....

    (ive a masters in multimedia computing, company director of an Internet Marketing company for over 10 yrs)
     
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    Hi themountaintiger

    Welcome to the fun:welcome: and thanks for the detailed explanation with your experience you may well be popular on here!!, obviously we all have to be aware of these scans and I think its a good idea if anyone sees something suspicious on ebay to post it on here so hopefully none of us get stung:Blush:.
     
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    i know exactly what you mean but why is there no record of the seller if you click on their user name on ebay.....it sends you to ebays 'find member/people' page.
    and if you click on their feedback score it produces an error message.

    how can the listing be on ebay if the member doesnt exist on the genuine ebay.
     
  12. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

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    2005 Swift Motorhome Freestyle Fiat Caravan Diesel on eBay (end time 28-Sep-09 21:24:10 BST)

    Check the URL in browser bar, its on ebay-motors.eu/uk and also linked to a Rapido

    cgi-view-item.ebay-motors.eu/uk/swiftfreestyle

    ViewItem&item=2001%20RAPIDO%20MOTORHOME
    Peter
     
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    Fascinating.

    I've just had a look for the hell of it. On real ebay there is a bid of £3K(ish) and no buy now and then the fake site gets a buy now. So it's possible the Swift is genuine and the poor sod waiting for bids isn't getting them any more.

    So how are they re-directing a genuine ebay page to another site? It shouldn't be hard for you to capture the real page and look at the code.
     
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    Also noticed before page moves to scam site their item number is in the old place whereas the genuine seller's item number is in the correct place

    Also there is another bid on it now total 16 anyone from here?
     
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    Now just who has bid up to £88000 for the 2005 Swift. just visible before the page is referred?

    Rather funny, but not so funny is the eBay response - or rather, lack of it. They have not removed the original advert despite at least two reports of fraudulent activity.

    Until they get a grip of this, they will lose potential customers.

    Steve
     
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    Oh sh&t.:Eeek:.....i only meant to hit the 0 key twice.



    :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    Anyone know the outcome of this yet? Scam listiing still active though :Angry:

    Cant see the original seller's listing now either, did a search for his item number also but came up with nil
     
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    How can E-bay not understand ??? Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
     
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    Well I'm not even going to think about using them :Rofl1:
     
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    Update on Scams

    I think the ebay technical support got fed up of me. Basically what they have done is give me the telephone number of the ebay motors team.. Now dont all get excited at once cos the best thing is that the support is only open 9am-5:30pm Mon to Fri, and guess when i seem to be seeing the scams come on ebay, friday/saturday..typical. However they did give me an e-mail address...

    Here is the content of the e-mail from the ebay technical support team. Please note if a few of us ring up/email they may increase the current status from "ebay scam, yawn where's my cup of coffee" to ebay scam, ok lets sort this out a week on tuesday". this of course would be a vast improvement...

    Here is the content of the e-mail.....Now lets get phoning/e-mailing....

    Hello Tony,

    Thanks for your email regarding a section in the Motor's homepage which
    redirects you to a scam page.

    I've forwarded your concern to the eBay Motors Pro dealer support team
    who will reply to you as soon as possible. To help us answer your
    queries about eBay Motors Pro promptly in future, please send them
    directly to:

    dealersupport@ebaymotorspro.co.uk

    You can also contact the dealer support team by phone:

    0845 358 0240 9:00 AM - 5:30 PM Monday-Friday

    Tony, the dealer support team will be in touch with you soon. Thanks for
    your patience in the meantime. [Please note im still waiting after 5 days to be contacted]

    Kind regards,

    Marie Greene
    eBay Customer Support
     
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