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[yodeli]

Gutted .....


I thought it would be OK, everything seemed to be Ok ....

All papers done, gas pressure changed from 50 MB to 30 Mb ... MOT perfect


And now

Max is not going to be on French roads.... yet!

It is not all finished but I have now to pretend I have built Max myself.
So on the 22sd of April I'm off to Albi (lots of trouble to get my day off as if I didn't have enough troubles) and will get Max to be entirely checked by the firm "VERITAS"
Habitation is not recognised as a proper one even with German and French Hymer certificates of conformity.........oh:

So VERITAS is in charge now to check if Max can become French : Gas , electricity, weight in each cupboard , on each side compared to the allowed charge in front and behind ... blahblahblahblah .... I'm sick of it ... and of course this has a cost : 230 euros !!!!!

So let me add:
I had German Hymer cerficate : 50 euros
French Fiat certificate: 160 euros
French Hymer certificate;260 euros (B******s)
Gas fitted 104 euros
Temporary plates Prefecture:38 + making 44 = 82 euros
MOT 69 euros
and now 230 and ...... DREAL at the end: 86,90

Total: 1041,90

And I didn't do the cambelt ...yet !:Sad:

Max ..... you are very very Dear to me.....by all means ....


Frankie

 

[lesleyjean]

Never mind Frankie

As soon as you get on the road...........

All your expenses and trouble will be forgotten..........

..................then....... Just enjoy

Have FUN

 

[B-well]

that's it then happy days are on the way now :thumb:
Good trouble free luck in your future travels.

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[Ali n Tim]

Hi Frankie. Fingers crossed it all works out for you.. and Max of course :thumb::thumb:

 

[cruiser]

you really have some patience.we hope it all goes as planed.:Angry::thumb::thumb:

 

[spitfire]

Gutted .....


I thought it would be OK, everything seemed to be Ok ....

All papers done, gas pressure changed from 50 MB to 30 Mb ... MOT perfect


And now

Max is not going to be on French roads.... yet!

It is not all finished but I have now to pretend I have built Max myself.
So on the 22sd of April I'm off to Albi (lots of trouble to get my day off as if I didn't have enough troubles) and will get Max to be entirely checked by the firm "VERITAS"
Habitation is not recognised as a proper one even with German and French Hymer certificates of conformity.........oh:

So VERITAS is in charge now to check if Max can become French : Gas , electricity, weight in each cupboard , on each side compared to the allowed charge in front and behind ... blahblahblahblah .... I'm sick of it ... and of course this has a cost : 230 euros !!!!!

So let me add:
I had German Hymer cerficate : 50 euros
French Fiat certificate: 160 euros
French Hymer certificate;260 euros (B******s)
Gas fitted 104 euros
Temporary plates Prefecture:38 + making 44 = 82 euros
MOT 69 euros
and now 230 and ...... DREAL at the end: 86,90

Total: 1041,90

And I didn't do the cambelt ...yet !:Sad:

Max ..... you are very very Dear to me.....by all means ....


Frankie

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Frankie this information was on. French forum. Does it help at all ??

I know it cost us €1000 to get our 1999 Hooby registered but that was quite a number f years ago.

My understanding is that France s one if only 5 countries who refuse to accept to automatically reregister vehicles from another EU country but it seems this will end . X

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[daisy mae]

So sorry Frankie to hear of the troubles you are having, hope it is sorted soon and you and Max are on your adventures :thumb:
grrrrr!! red tape

Margaret

 

[spitfire]

Gutted .....


I thought it would be OK, everything seemed to be Ok ....

All papers done, gas pressure changed from 50 MB to 30 Mb ... MOT perfect


And now

Max is not going to be on French roads.... yet!

It is not all finished but I have now to pretend I have built Max myself.
So on the 22sd of April I'm off to Albi (lots of trouble to get my day off as if I didn't have enough troubles) and will get Max to be entirely checked by the firm "VERITAS"
Habitation is not recognised as a proper one even with German and French Hymer certificates of conformity.........oh:

So VERITAS is in charge now to check if Max can become French : Gas , electricity, weight in each cupboard , on each side compared to the allowed charge in front and behind ... blahblahblahblah .... I'm sick of it ... and of course this has a cost : 230 euros !!!!!

So let me add:
I had German Hymer cerficate : 50 euros
French Fiat certificate: 160 euros
French Hymer certificate;260 euros (B******s)
Gas fitted 104 euros
Temporary plates Prefecture:38 + making 44 = 82 euros
MOT 69 euros
and now 230 and ...... DREAL at the end: 86,90

Total: 1041,90

And I didn't do the cambelt ...yet !:Sad:

Max ..... you are very very Dear to me.....by all means ....


Frankie

This is the whole legislation

http://eur-lex.europa.eu/LexUriServ/LexUriServ.do?uri=COM:2012:0164:FIN:EN:PDF

X

 

[Ambilkate]

Hi Frankie, I know it feels like you want to :shout: BUT honestly It will be worth it in the end hugs and kisses from us three

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[yodeli]

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Frankie this information was on. French forum. Does it help at all ??

I know it cost us €1000 to get our 1999 Hooby registered but that was quite a number f years ago.

My understanding is that France s one if only 5 countries who refuse to accept to automatically reregister vehicles from another EU country but it seems this will end . X

Will have to read it properly when less upset.

Thanks for the info anyway.

Frankie

 

[Anna]

Gutted .....


I thought it would be OK, everything seemed to be Ok ....

All papers done, gas pressure changed from 50 MB to 30 Mb ... MOT perfect


And now

Max is not going to be on French roads.... yet!

It is not all finished but I have now to pretend I have built Max myself.
So on the 22sd of April I'm off to Albi (lots of trouble to get my day off as if I didn't have enough troubles) and will get Max to be entirely checked by the firm "VERITAS"
Habitation is not recognised as a proper one even with German and French Hymer certificates of conformity.........oh:

So VERITAS is in charge now to check if Max can become French : Gas , electricity, weight in each cupboard , on each side compared to the allowed charge in front and behind ... blahblahblahblah .... I'm sick of it ... and of course this has a cost : 230 euros !!!!!

So let me add:
I had German Hymer cerficate : 50 euros
French Fiat certificate: 160 euros
French Hymer certificate;260 euros (B******s)
Gas fitted 104 euros
Temporary plates Prefecture:38 + making 44 = 82 euros
MOT 69 euros
and now 230 and ...... DREAL at the end: 86,90

Total: 1041,90

And I didn't do the cambelt ...yet !:Sad:i

Max ..... you are very very Dear to me.....by all means ....


Frankie

Hi Frankie

So sorry to hear you have to do that. That is exactly what we had to do in order to register our 1998 UK Swift Kontiki because we couldn't obtain a CoC for the habitation!

It is a big expense and a real pain in the derrière doing all the paperwork but once you sit down (and calm down!), you'll find you can work through it bit by bit.

Think you will also have to take it to a weigh bridge to get a print out of the weights, total, front axle and back axle. Make sure you go empty so you don't register too heavy so you can have enough payload (that's the weight allowed for you to pack your stuff in it!).

Also, when you do your calculations, make sure they work out for the number of passengers with seatbelts as that will be written on your carte grise.

It's a load of nonsense really as we had to show as if there was lots of weight in each of the tiny cutlery drawers to make the calculations work lol!

Best of luck and hope all goes well for you and Max.
Bon courage
Cordialment
Anna

 

[Madwife]

Keep smiling Frankie, all will be ok and having been out and about with you in Max know that it will all be ok in the end.

It's a bit like us buying our present house - all was going ok until suddenly the mortgage company decided that they would not give me the loan despite promising me a very much larger mortgage 2 months previously and us having a very sizable deposit. After several sleepless nights and lots of angry thoughts all turned out ok.

Kath

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[Snowbird]

Sorry to hear about your predicament Frankie. I hope you get it sorted soon, but it does strengthen my thoughts on moving back to the UK all those years ago.

 

[Carol]

Frankie, fingers crossed you get it all sorted out soon ready for the summer.

 

[yodeli]

Hi Frankie

So sorry to hear you have to do that. That is exactly what we had to do in order to register our 1998 UK Swift Kontiki because we couldn't obtain a CoC for the habitation!

It is a big expense and a real pain in the derrière doing all the paperwork but once you sit down (and calm down!), you'll find you can work through it bit by bit.

Think you will also have to take it to a weigh bridge to get a print out of the weights, total, front axle and back axle. Make sure you go empty so you don't register too heavy so you can have enough payload (that's the weight allowed for you to pack your stuff in it!).

Also, when you do your calculations, make sure they work out for the number of passengers with seatbelts as that will be written on your carte grise.


It's a load of nonsense really as we had to show as if there was lots of weight in each of the tiny cutlery drawers to make the calculations work lol!

Best of luck and hope all goes well for you and Max.
Bon courage
Cordialment
Anna

Thanks God someone knows what it is all about .....Thanks for these words but indeed ... I hope VERITAS can do all the calculations for me...I don't feel like spending hours trying to know whether this cupboard should have 30 kgs in while the other one in spite of being smaller can hold 50 kgs...pffffff ! BTW can you answer this question because I can't see anywhere on the papers I have to fill in anything like an answer. It would sound normal to include the gasoil tank in the calculation just like water tank, and what do you do: put half fresh water half grey or what????? one full one empty ? is it where the drawer over grey water tank is 50 kgs???because of the grey water tank being empty ? ....My head hurts!!

Sorry to say I will probably read your answer in the morning...I am just KO! I need sleep ...;hoping I am not going to count KGs all night long . OH and BTW I have already weighted Max: Front Rear and Total and empty it was 2,400 so quite good. And he (the man of DREAL) has already counted 2 people so he said take out of the total weight 2x75kgs which leaves 3,100 - 2,400 = 700kgs - (2x75=150) = 550 to put in all the cupboards and tanks.... ENOUGH for tonight ...off to bed!

Thanks to all for your nice words....

Frankie

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[Madwife]

Sleep well and dream of driving about and staying in lovely places with all of the paperwork sorted and agreed.

K x

 

[Anna]

Thanks God someone knows what it is all about .....Thanks for these words but indeed ... I hope VERITAS can do all the calculations for me...I don't feel like spending hours trying to know whether this cupboard should have 30 kgs in while the other one in spite of being smaller can hold 50 kgs...pffffff ! BTW can you answer this question because I can't see anywhere on the papers I have to fill in anything like an answer. It would sound normal to include the gasoil tank in the calculation just like water tank, and what do you do: put half fresh water half grey or what????? one full one empty ? is it where the drawer over grey water tank is 50 kgs???because of the grey water tank being empty ? ....My head hurts!!

Sorry to say I will probably read your answer in the morning...I am just KO! I need sleep ...;hoping I am not going to count KGs all night long . OH and BTW I have already weighted Max: Front Rear and Total and empty it was 2,400 so quite good. And he (the man of DREAL) has already counted 2 people so he said take out of the total weight 2x75kgs which leaves 3,100 - 2,400 = 700kgs - (2x75=150) = 550 to put in all the cupboards and tanks.... ENOUGH for tonight ...off to bed!

Thanks to all for your nice words....

Frankie

Sounds like you're already getting a lot more help from Dreal and Veritas than we got but then you are a Frenchie so probably have the correct smile ha ha!
I'm sure we didn't have to fill in any weights for water or fuel tanks as they were allowed for when the camper was weighed at the weighbridge.
I do still have all the paperwork filed (felt like framing it all and hanging it on the wall by the time I'd finished lol) so could look it up, although it was almost 3 years ago now so some things may have changed.
Night night!

 

[Jan1ce]

Wow I didn't realise that you had o get extra paperwork to travel . I would have just jumped on the ferry.. How do you find this stuff out. Is it as complicated to go to Spain?

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[ponyboy]

Bon courage Frankie, we will also have to face this process soon when we get back to France in October
ponyboy

 

[sedge]

Wow I didn't realise that you had o get extra paperwork to travel . I would have just jumped on the ferry.. How do you find this stuff out. Is it as complicated to go to Spain?

You don't!

Yodeli/Frankie is French and lives in France. However, she purchased Max in Germany (I think? Not France, anyway!) and this is all about the difficulty of actually registering Max in France to make him legal there, despite the fact that he was already legal in another EU country!

Our vehicles are UK registered cos we live in UK and we can travel across the water quite legally - but if we should move our permanent residence to abroad, that's when the fun starts potentially.

And you thought the British picked nits and invented red tape, didn't you? We are but amateurs at it in comparison to Les Frogs !