Axle weights?

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  1. hailman

    hailman Read Only Funster

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    These are the weights listed on my chassis plate, can someone kindly explain what they mean and how much weight I can carry. Thanks.

    3850
    4850
    1850
    2120
     
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    3850 Max vehicle weight
    4850 Max train weight (vehicle and trailer)
    1850 Front Axle
    2120 Rear axle

    To determine your payload you will have to get the vehicle weighed the differance between your actual weight and max vehicle weight is your available payload (assuming you do not exceed individual axle weights.
     
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    the first is the most you can weigh fully loaded. (the gross weight)
    the second is the total weight of van and loaded trailer. (the train weight)
    the third is the front axle max weight
    the forth is the rear axle max weight.

    the front and rear axle weights will always add up to more than the gross weight to allow for uneven loading and should never be exceeded and the max gross should not be exceeded under any circumstances.

    if you load the rear to the limit (2120kg) then deduct this from the gross (3850kg) the result (1730kg) is the most the front axle can carry.

    the only true way to calculate payload is to weigh the van empty then deduct this figure from the gross (3850kg) and the difference is your payload.
     
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    Most informative, thank you both.:thumb:
     
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    i think i can safely say its not fiat ducato based...!!!:Wink:
     
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    thats a remarkably small trailer weight !
     
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    The gross weight, 3,850, also means that there are more restrictions on who may drive the van as opposed to a 3,500 gross van..:Eek!:
     
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    yep!!!

    thats why im sure its not ducato based.

    all 3500kg ducato's start life with a 5500kg train weight then as the gross goes up, the train comes down.

    mines 3850kg gross but the trailer limit is 1650kg...total train still = 5500kg

    still more than enough for my corsa (840kg unladen or 1400kg gross)
     
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    Actually, it is Ducato based. Maybe I have read the plate wrong?

    It`s a Mobilvetta Euroyacht 190LX, says `Ducato Maxi` on the back, and I think it is the X230 chassis.

    Any more thoughts?
     
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    My N+B Arto 2003 on Fiat Ducato Maxi chassis with 2.8jtd has plate as follows

    3500kg
    5500kg
    1850kg
    2120kg

    The 3500kg Max is what I think all N+B Artos were marketted with, but the V5C and the N+B Data show 3850kg Max weight.

    I too would be surprised if the Train weight were not also 5500kg

    Geoff
     
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    3,500

    6,300

    1,750

    2,240

    Better with RWD if train weight is 'your thing' it would appear. Is this the norm for a RWD

    van?
     
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    I checked the plate again and those are the figures stamped on. Is there a way of upgrading the train weight as I may want to tow a race car next year. The probable weight of car and trailer will be around 1000kg, so is borderline. Any ideas ? apart from selling the van of course.
     
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    im very surprised at that.

    maybe the later chassis have a different train.
     

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