Autotrail vs Tribute

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  1. Jagtazman

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    Hi
    Can anyone explain the differences between these two vans that explains the 10k difference in price.
    Autotrail apache 700 and the Tribute 736 both look similar, yes small differences but not huge
    the OTR price is £55,085 vs £42,701 even taken into account the Drivers pack on 736 its a hell of a difference for 2 vans from same factory and same company.
    Cannot work out what I a missing
    Any assistance would be appreciated.
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    Surely the dealer (s) can answer this for you... should be interesting
     
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    All I can contribute is we had a new 2014 Tribute and in less than 3 months the floor delaminated.:mad:
    Although I would assume the same flooring would be used for Tribute and Autotrails!!!
    One of the reasons we've gone for a German van. (y)
     
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    Yup I was at a dealer today and he had autotrail never noticed till come home may go back down. However both are supposed to be at NEC end of Feb so gonna ask then also. Yes Tribute looks slightly less specd smaller oven, smaller worksurfaces etc but I cannot see where the price difference between the 2 is, a few k yes but not 10k. We will see
     
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    Would you believe a single word a MH dealer told you?
    Lies and lack of product knowledge are a dangerous combination
     
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    The price is down to what base vehicle they're on and what spec they have, think of Swift and Bessecarr, sometimes the MHs are virtually identical but the latter will have more bits and bobs/a higher spec etc.
     
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    Just had a shuftie and the payload on the Tribute is abysmal!

    Tribute: this appears to be on the standard LWB chassis as it comes as standard with 15" wheels and a MTPLM of 3500kg but can be uprated FOC to 3650kg, the existing MIRO is 3120kg giving a payload of 380kg / 350kg respectively, no where near enough for a large family MH even once uprated.

    Apache: this is on the heavy LWB chassis as it comes with 16" wheels and is plated at 4250kg which it needs as the MIRO is 3425kg which would only give 75kg payload if it was plated at 3500kg! It therefore has a payload of 825kg which is more than adequate.

    For both though if you need the extra payload you need to have the correct driving licence categories and be aware that going over 3500kg will have speed restrictions abroad and may prevent you from going into certain places which ban vehicles over this weight.
     
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    Just noticed the MTLPM myself and spent more time researching you are correct must manufacturers have budget ranges in swift bailey autotrail etc.
    What still amazes me is circ 10k difference between them. I know I am new to all this but seems a wide gap ok specs and trims are different and I suppose u pay for what you get. But I would have though the basis chassis / model would be the same like on a car. Clearly not. The weights do worry me as it looks way to easy to overload a 3500kg.
    Looking for a new mh ain't going be easy but it sure will be fun
     
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    I looked for two years before I got a Auto trail
    Apache 700.
    But every time I go out in it there is something new to fix. Now had for two years.
     
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    Jagtazman, you've now reached the limit of your 'free' posts so if you want to ask any more questions etc you'll need to subscribe.

    Personally I'd be looking for a good secondhand MH as there are lots out there without the massive depreciation buying a new one brings.
     
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    Not decided on new or second hand its like buying a car when you look for one you look at new ones, decide what you want then check the spec and what’s about second hand, re check spec and make a decision on price condition etc.

    Haven't seen massive depreciation like you see on cars unless I am looking in wrong places from what I see 2nd hand ones hold their value the depreciation is in first few years but not a much as I was expecting. However if you are buying new with a warranty etc, then when all is equal one some models are not alot of difference.

    We are def not looking to purchase this year and may not be 2017 so looking at new ones now will be 2nd hand when we purchase (if we decide not to purchase new)

    We have no ruled out a 10-15 year old MH either all options are wide open atm.

    Atm we are looking at a lounge end and have a short list of new models:-

    Bessacarr 496

    Autotrail Apache 700

    Bailey Autograph 765

    Tribute 736 (not seen yet)

    Bailey Advance 665 (not seen yet)

    Swift Escape 686 (not seen yet)
     
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    We are looking to sell our Autotrail Apache 700 as made a mistake in buying as now realise we need an island bed, 6 berth, 4 traveling seats, over-cab bed, rear lounge/bed, dinette/bed.13mths old 64 plate, had 1st service and habitation check.
     
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    After more research weve decided rear lounge is not for us, went to NEC yesterday and now looking at bunks or singles. TBH no alot of choice for families with teenagers especially if like us you want a L shaped lounger with swivel cabs, most are dinnettes, but we have narrowed down to 4/5 new ones, even thou I still think will go second hand, however if buy second and change in say 4-5 years time the new ones now which are above our pinch point will be affordable then so worth looking at and planning ahead
     
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    oh and saw tribute and AT side by side and yes one hell of a difference, however not sure 10k but def 5-7k worth of difference. imho
     
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    Nice Minxy that one is sold any idea how much it was?
     
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    No sorry, I just remembered the layouts as we were at the Dusseldorft show when they were being promoted back in 2005 I think! Some only have a single bunk (504) others have 2 bunks (524 ... not all of them though - the bottom one can be changed to a small garage)
     
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    added to my watch list lol cheers
     
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