Autotrail Apache 2004 Cat Or Non Cat

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  1. Vlad The Impaler

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    Can anyone tell me if an Autotrail Apache on a fiat ducato 2.8 jtd 2004 should have a catalytic convert or or not ?
    Can anyone post a link of the system.
    Since having my front section of pipe replaced last year I've had a warning light come on when changing down going uphill and the engine is under load .
    When I look under the van the section after the manifold is straight ,but when I look at images of a fiat ducato exhaust system on the net there appears to be a cat on this section!


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    We had to have the front pipe section replaced on our 2003 Ducato 2.8 JTD earlier this year. The local Fiat truck dealer couldn't tell from the catalogue and chassis number which of the two (or was it three?) options was required so we had to take it in for them to check first. Ours definitely has no cat.
    We have had no warning light problems so it may be worth going back to the garage which did the work for you.
     
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    That's a bit of a sore point Graham ,it was suggested that the light coming on was a sticking waste gate and they looked at the turbo . It was fine when it went in but not working when it came out ,it was at a turbo specialist at the weekend and he says the actuator arm in his opinion has been forced away from the waste gate snapping the pin .
    The turbo guy suggested that the light coming on was something to do with the cat which I don't appear to have ,
    I just wonder if it was there before they changed the exhaust and have replaced the section with the non cat one causing the light to come on .




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    I'm not certain but I got the impression that (apart from a pretty wide variation in prices) the pipe section had to be replaced on a like for like basis so they needed to identify which part to order in so as to not waste anybody's time.
     
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    The cat on its own surely wouldn't bring on a light as it has no sensors or need for any , unlike a dpf.
    What is the "light" that is coming on signifying?
     
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    Something to do with a build up of gasses can't remember what the turbo bloke said ,all I know is they changed the exhaust and the next day the light started coming on ,so possibly it's because there is no cat whereas before there may have been!
    It's the engine management light that came on.



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    Given that you said
    could it be that the exhaust pipe has been changed correctly but that the fitter could have broken something else at the same time?
     
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    God knows ,when the turbo is repaired next week we will see if the light comes on under load as before or not ,if not I can only assume that they damaged something ,proving it is however another matter.
    They denied damaging the turbo and said it was wear and tear ,but the turbo man said in his 20 years in the game has never seen one fail in this way.
    My car is due a major service soon and is picked up by said garage from the house then dropped back and I go in on a Saturday to settle up. I will be taking photos from the turbo man plus a written up statement that in his professional opinion he suspects foul play ,and deducting the costs from my service bill !
    If they don't like it they can take me to court.


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    I have a 2006 Autotrail Mohican with no cat fitted. Straight down pipe from turbo to first box. Just had a new exhaust fitted (bespoke stainless) and no issues. Not sure if this helps but personally I would suspect something has gone amiss during the fitting of your front pipe.
     
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    My 2005 has no cat.
     
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    Our 2007 had no cat either
     
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