automatics

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  1. kcy

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    Hi everyone, you are such a great gang out there.Every time I ask a question you're all there. So next question is.
    I'm wanting to change my CI for one with a fixed bed, I think I've found one but its an automatic, any good? pros and cons please x:thanks2:
     
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    I had a CI Cipro 55 on a Merc Sprinter chassis with the Merc Sprintshift autobox and it was lovely to drive. The only "con" that comes to mind is the fuel consumption, I felt it was a trifle thirsty.

    I changed it because I had had issues with the CI part of the van and not because of the base vehicle.
     
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    Auto all the way for me!

    Craig
     
  4. kcy

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    why
     
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    It depends on the exact model. What is the base vehicle and engine?

    I prefer manuals because of economy, but would (and did) go for an automatic because that is what it had. There are certain advantages, it is much more leisurely and you don't care about performance in a motorhome, only about not smashing the crockery.

    However, advice should be based on the particular drivetrain you are considering. It might be a semi-automatic (robotised manual) or a particularly good or bad slushbox.
     
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    I drive an auto Fiat. Before that an auto Mistubishi base, before that an Auto Ford. I have wobbly knees and need to be able to brake with my left foot in heavy traffic. Also, the auto box is also much less work and driving is less tiring.

    However, whilst the Ford was rear-wheel drive, and the Mitsubishi 4-wheel drive, the Fiat is front wheel drive and likes to dig itself into wet grass. Ok all Fiats do. It peels the grass off the soil like skin off a rice pudding, and digs in. It's very difficult to apply the right amount of power with an auto. It does not lend itself to finesse. Mine doesn't have any traction control or other gadgets. Possibly such devices might help a bit. I am sceptical.
     
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    Mine is fitted with a "Comformatic".... Fully Auto or Manual selection...

    After nearly 4 K miles this winter I did a trial using the fully Auto mode... and it made the difference of approx 4 - 5 miles less to the gallon .. :Sad:

    So other than that bit for a short while I used the manual side... just meant I had to flick the lever forwards and back... no clutch so no hardship.... but better MPH.. :thumb:
     
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    Weve had both Merc based and fiat based autos and been all over Europe and Morocco in them. What exactly are you considering?
     
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    I've had a Renault and now have a Ford automatic both really good to drive not much difference in fuel consumption :Smile:
    Just done a trip over to Belgium and averaged about 28 mpg
     
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    My Renault master with the robotised Auto/ manual is slightly more economical in the auto position, this I put down to the early change up to a higher gear than I would normally do it if it was in manual,
    These gearboxes are not true automatics in the sense they don't have a torque converter so don't have any slippage in the lower gears,
    So though they change gear for you they are really a manual gearbox and should be near identical as far as fuel consumption is concerned,
     
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    I love my auto and wouldn't fancy going back to a manual
     
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    Automatic

    Didn't really want an auto but to avoid a long factory build bought the Auto that was in stock. It takes more than a test drive to 'like' the Fiat Auto change. There is a certain knack to getting the box to change earlier by using the accelerator pedal which only comes with experience. You can't rush the Gear changing so you have to drive smoothly and 'calmly' not a bad thing, you're on holiday after all. Would not go back to a manual.
     
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    Auto or naughto

    We have only had manual motorhomes and always managed well, but last year when we changed our car, we bought an auto Merc and as I hadn't owned an auto for thirty five years (had a 3.3l vauxhall Viscount followed by a 3l Capri Ghia) I was amazed by the leap in refinement. Dead easy to drive and 50 plus mpg.

    When we come to swap our current van I will definitely buy an auto no question. The advantages (e.g. easy control and start at uphill junctions and lights to mention but one) far outweigh the small loss in mpg. And if I can stretch to a Merc based Hymer, so much the better.

    So don't be put off.:BigGrin:
     
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    Udo is an automatic.

    Sure, he's slower than his manual counterpart as these old Merc 'boxes love to shift into 2nd as soon as they're rolling. But his shifts are beattifully slurred and there's never any missing gears - something I managed to do a little with the 410 manual I drove last year.

    Two of my cars are auto as well.

    I find the more relaxed gait of an auto suits the fuss-free atmosphere of motorhome travelling and ownership.
     
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    I have the 3 litre fiat comfortmatic...............brilliant.

    I have a Toyota auto.and a VW DSG auto...........all enjoyable.
    All over ridable if you ever need to select a gear.................which is a rarity.

    barry:Smile:
     
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    I have the 7 speed "dual gearbox type" auto on my VW T5 and is changes gear like a dream with no delay at all. It's superb to drive.

    On gearbox has gears 1, 3, 5 and 7 and the other has gears 2, 4, 6 and reverse. So when you start off and accelerate away gears one are two are pre-selected in the two gearboxes and the clutch engages gear one. When gear two is required the clutch plates only have to move a minute distance so there is no lag. Once gear two is selected the first gearbox pre-selects gear three ready for use. Obviously when decelerating the down gears are pre-selected in the unused gear box.
     
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    I've personally got a manual and love it, for me it's part of driving :)

    Fully understand why people go for autos, be it health reasons with knees etc or the ease of driving, but the only true way to find out is to test both out. Find the model you like (sounds so easy when you type it down) and try to see if you can test it. As mentioned previously, you'll not get the true feeling of an auto, until you've clocked some miles up in one, but at least you'll get the basic feel of it :)

    Not 100% sure, but believe there's a premium to pay if you do opt for an auto.

    Expensive mistake if you get it wrong and don't like it :)

    Good luck with the search and keep us posted :)
     
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    I had the opportunity to drive the new Mercedes 7 speed auto a few weeks ago. What a drive, so smooth and so expensive, but if I had the money it would be the one for me. The salesman told me Merc were claiming 30mpg plus on a 3880kg chassis. Still can't afford it but I can dream.
     
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    The 7 speed Merc is a great gearbox - a really great drive and my car gives me over 50 mpg on the trip computer. Love it. Sadly the van is a manual.....:(
     
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