Automatic Or Manual

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  1. Mart grump

    Mart grump Funster

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    we are about to order a carthago c line xl cant decide on aoto or manual geerbox i got told by my local adams moray not to have the auto box but most larger fiat motorhomes seem to be auto any thoughts
     
  2. Larrynwin

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    I know nothing about the Cathago or Fiat but for me the comfort of an automatic especially in slow moving traffic is a must.
    My car has a six speed box and its like stirring a pudding , far prefer driving my RV with its auto .(y)
     
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  3. ABZSteve

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    Been driving autos for over 15 years so it was a must for me on my new van. Hired a manual van before deciding to buy and the winding, up and down roads in Scotland confirmed my suspicions that gear changes would be frequent. Some will say that you will spend a lot of time on motorways in top gear so why would you need an automatic. Fair enough, however, there will be many miles done in traffic, winding roads, small country roads etc and that, in my humble opinion, could lead you regret not paying that little bit extra for the auto. I have only had my van for a month but so far, I have loved the comfortmatic box. I also upgraded the engine to 150BHP and I suggest you consider that also but if I am looking at the correct van you are about to order, I woud go with the 3.0L 180BHP. BTW, what explanantion did your dealer give you for not choosing the auto. Good Luck(y)
     
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  4. old-mo

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    Go for the "Comformatic" best of both worlds... (y)
     
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  5. rapido convert

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    Auto every time, my first bus with an autobox is the rapido,its a 7 speed coupled to a merc diesel turbo, the gearchange is seamless there is no longer any stress about which gear to select going up hill, this coupled with cruise control allows me to leave the ferry at santander and arrive in the algarve in one sitting only stopping once for fuel.
    Its heaven sat in a connelly hide armchair, ankle deep in wilton carpet, i sometimes drive in my slippers and wear my smoking jacket :).
    Seriously though, auto with cruise the most stress free way to travel.
    Cheers
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    The merc proper 7 speed auto box so probably yes. but fiat not a proper auto, so not so sure, personally I dont think I would like it from what I have read, plus I quite enjoy driving and selecting my own gears. Just try before you buy it's a lot of money to get it wrong!:(

    I live in london but most of my camper driving spent on the open road in high gear on cruise.... So always manual for me unless fiat introduce a proper auto box, then I could be tempted....

    A friend went for it without trying it and remains unconvinced, I trust his opinion
     
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  7. Bill_OR

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    The Comformatic box is excellent and there is no way I would buy another motorhome without one.
     
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    I have found that auto boxes, as you get older, allow your mind to concentrate on the things happening around you rather than the gearbox?
     
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  9. Jaws

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    Oddly, I find exactly the opposite !
    Chasing gears keeps me awake and alert on long hauls
     
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    i like my auto box hymer but it brings the GTW down on sprinter against same model manual
     
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    My feelings exactly, but if you do take a test drive just be aware it may feel odd. It has taken me quite a while to really get used to and appreciate it. Initially my instincts were telling me it was wrong to just bowl up to a junction with nothing for my feet or hands to do. Now it feels normal, but it took several thousand miles to get there! However, some folk find change difficult to adapt to and if you are one of those it may not be for you.
     
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    Auto for me every time. Only slight problem is putting it on levelling blocks as you can't slip the clutch.
     
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    Personally, I have always preferred manual gearboxes, having said that I bought a Ford Scorpio once, had an auto box, very smooth and nice. I was a tugger then and the first time we towed the van we had a fire under the bonnet. Apparently the gearbox got too hot and the wiring loom ignited. Bit un-nerving, called it a "Scorchio" after that and soon went back to a manual. Never driven an auto or comfort motorhome so will just have to get on with changing gear when I want to, not when the van want's to..... What I call real driving...:winky:
     
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    @Mart grump

    I love Autos for cars but I am happy to have manual in the van at the moment, if we ordered new I would most likely go manual but torque converter Auto not robotised.

    Just to explain in case you dont know, some Auto boxes are actually manual boxes operated automatically (robotised) and they have a clutch as well, comfortmatic is one of these designs and is the only "Auto" available on the Fiat chassis. The other design is usually found in Mercs (not Sprintshift), Americans and the IVECO 8 speed from the start of this year, they are often called "full Auto" they rely on a torque converter to send the drive to the box and then the box itself is made of sets of gears switched in and out by clutches or bands.

    I would say a "full Auto" is smoother and has no clutch to wear out but lots of people have the Fiat Comfortmatic and love it so if I was in your boots I would try the Auto first and if you like it order it but just remember it has a clutch.

    EDIT When I say clutch, it is an automated clutch not a pedal.
     
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    My car is auto and I love it, the trouble is that anything else I bought with an auto gearbox would have to live up to that.

    The motorhome is manual and that's fine too. I enjoy driving it.
     
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    Modern auto's are designed to lock up the torque converter at cruising speeds, making them almost as efficient as manual boxes when driving on motorways. Auto for me everytime.

    Ian
     
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    Yes but thats only if they have a torque converter in the first place, you are right about the efficiency but its also down to the fact that "Autos" are now getting the same number of ratios as the manual equivalent.
     
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    The Comformatic has a couple of quirks, but overall it's a great box would never have a manual van again.
     
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    Boy racer ?? :rofl:
     
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    Noooo.. stupid small engine in a five and half tonne motorhome !!!
     
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