Autogas 2000 Tank Filling Problem

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  1. John Laidler

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    Just tried to fill the gas tank near Almeria in Spain. The tank is about one third full but we could only get 30 cents worth in! Tried everything and much head scratching by me and the garage guy.

    Unfortunately, this problem may have arisen before we left the UK. Although the tank was three quarters full I went to fill up completely but could only manage about a seven eighths full tank.

    A bit of Googling suggests the float which prevents over-filling may be stuck and a carefully placed tap with a hammer may cure it.

    It is also possible the system was trying to stop me killing myself as we realised later the 'fridge was still running on gas. Oops. Does it know you are drawing gas and therefore have a naked flame and it won't let you refill?

    Just to recap, it is an Autogas 2000 Caratank built in system with an external filler.

    I will ring the company on Monday but any advice before then would be most welcome.
     
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    Try taking tank out and turning upside down a few times to make the float flap about and hopefully loosen it
    I wondered why they put a 2m filler hose on my gaslow till I realised I can take the tanks out without disconnection
     
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    Quite difficult.
     
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    No - it doesn't know whether gas is being drawn or not. A stuck cut-off valve appears to fit the symptoms - they are a simple mechanical device no doubt prone to the same faults as any other simple mechanical device. Giving the tank (or the whole vehicle) a good shake might help temporarily.
     
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    Different ambient temperatures, different internal pressure in the tank?

    The liquid will expand with heat as well, so the cut-off will turn off earlier.

    Peter
     
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    If you read my post on the Two Go to Spain thread today it would be hard to imagine giving the tank more of a shaking than what it went through today!

    I suspect the fault started in the UK when I wasn't able to completely fill it then.

    A well aimed tap with a hammer might work otherwise we will be buying a bottle and regulator and will live off the gas BBQ and leave what gas we have left to run the fridge on Aires.

    Many thanks for everyone's replies.

    Any other suggestions will be gratefully received.
     
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    I had a similar problem it was the feed hose broken down and a bit of the lining was stuck in the system taking the hose off and checking the inlet valves may be there is something jammed in the mane feed to the tank
    EDIT
    My system is gaslow but the obstruction stopped me filling up might be a similar problem
    bill
     
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    Do Autogas have a local dealer/fitter?
    Best of luck with getting it fixed
     
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    I'm going to call them in the UK tomorrow and see what they suggest. If there is anyone local that will be ideal.
     
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    I'll try and climb underneath and see what I can see. If there are any visible valves I'll give them a gentle tap.
     
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    the Manchester screwdriver will fix it(y)
     
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    When I had problems in Spain a few years ago (trauma regulator :() while waiting for a new non trauma to be flown over, visited local Chinese imporioum and got a single gas canister cooker...did the trick. Carry it now just in case. Prefer a twin bottle system in van..at least you have half a chance and can easily be moved to next van. Hope you get sorted as I guess your not staying on sites so more of an issue! Good luck!:)
     
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    Yes, the fall back position is to buy a camping stove of some sort.

    Theoretically, I could buy a bottle and regulator and use the external gas BBQ point to feed the gas in. I'll give that some thought too.
     
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    Crawled underneath and took the cover off the side of the tank. Underneath this is the valve to shut off the supply to the motorhome, what I took to be a safety valve and the inlet from the external filler connection. It looks about half inch bore. I gave everything a tap but nothing obvious happened. No "click" or "pfssst" of gas flowing. If it is the inlet valve which is stuck the pipe from the external filler to the valve should be full of liquid gas and if the float was dislodged I might have heard something.

    I'll ring them tomorrow but it sounds like a Plan B is necessary!
     
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    It might be a silly question but have you removed the gauge, given it a 'tap' and replaced it? If the same as mine the gauge is 'magnetically linked' to the float. I had a similar situation in not being able to add much gas and removed the gauge, temporarily fitting a new gauge courtesy of a garage and then re-fitting the original guage. The original gauge was under-reading and the tank was nearly full and this was the reason I could not add more. My gauge is secured by a single set screw and easilly removed. Hope you get to the bottom of the problem.
     
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    We have been using the gas for three weeks and seen the gauge slowly dropping so it can't be full. Our previous experience has been a tank will last a good six weeks so given it wasn't quite full when we started, the current level, between half and quarter full, sounds about right. We should have got around 8 litres in but it looks completely blocked.
     
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    there is a place up the coast and a bit inland on the way in to vera . they do lots caravan and m,home work. inland from garrucha.
    i havent used them . but lots do in the winter .
    might be they can help you.
    unfortunately cant remember their name or tel number .
    heard good reports of them .
     
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    Autocaravan Lorca work on motorhomes, sell lpg and also offer their 'aire' free for overnight parking.
    37.612122,-1.760044
    www.caravanaslorca.es

    A suitable stopover if you are heading North.
     
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    We will be going that way so if we can find them they might be the answer.
     
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