Autocruise Cold under seats

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  1. Oldroadies

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    We camp all the year round and find that it is very cold around the driver and passengers' seats, especially in this arctic weather. At night we tuck our coats around the base of the seats and this seems to help, but we wonder if there is some insulation missing, has any other Autocruise owner experienced this, if so do you have a solution or any ideas?
    2008 Autocruise Startrail on a Boxer
    Any help appreciated -Thanks
     
  2. wiljoy

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    We have had three Autocruise motorhomes and found the cab area no colder than all the other Peugeot, fiat and Citroen conversions. You could fit extra insulation to the bulkhead and under the cab floor. I found this did help a lot. There isn't much else you can do other than fit a thermal curtain between cab and living area for the winter.
    I have a Renault Master conversion now and the cab area is much better insulated than all my previous vans.
     
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    Our Auto-Trail is the same.
    We were out last week and the heating couldn't keep up with the cold coming from the front area (cab). We had the external screen cover on, which covers the screen and goes part way down the bonnet, and all of the cab vents closed with the airflow set to recirculate.
    Eventually I made a curtain out of some throws we have for the seats, which went behind the driver/passenger seats.
    It made a big difference, but meant we lost the use of two seats and the drop down tv.
    It would seem that the manufacturers make a big deal of insulating the hab area, but do nothing about the base vehicle cab area.
     
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    You need to block up the holes in the door frames underneath the van, others will explain further, my brains gone dead at the moment:cry:

    Peter
     
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    Thanks for your advice.

    I was going to look for vents etc this weekend but have been ill and have just got out of bed. I will certainly be looking in the next day or two.
     
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    one of the culprits is the pressed steel box section at the rear of the seat bases, it couples up with the box chassis members underneath which are fitted with rubber one way flaps for airflow. You can buy a Fiat plastic blanking stopper, the part number is 1355707080. The price each is £3.80. Obviously you will have to get on your back and get underneath to do it or if you have ramps it will be much easier. You should buy two because the opposite side might be missing. They just clip in place.
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    there may be a gap between the cab and the front of the coachbuilt bit as the manufacturers seem to think out of sight out of mind and they don't use their products.

    i had this in mine so removed the trim at the back of the cab and fitted some of that pipe lagging foam cut in to strips in the gaps and it has made a lot of difference.
     
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    Also check the moulding where the seatbelt 'reel' is located aren't letting in a draught either as that is often one area that is overlooked, if so, then a bit of foam slotted in (ensure the seatbelt still works properly) should do the trick. :Smile:
     
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    consider this......

    you may have an inch or two insulation in the walls and roof, 3/4 inch of plywood floor and a carpet.

    inside the front doors (and under the front seats) you have nothing but a bit of sound deadener between the outer metal skin and the inner cardboard door card and the under dash floor/bulkhead will have very minimal insulation.

    unless you use the front seats as part of the hab area (seat swivels) then a thermal curtail behind the seats is the best bet.

    if you use the seats then live with it or insulate the doors and under seat area.

    How cold can you get before spending this kind of money :Eeek:

    http://www.dynamatstore.com/index.php?l=product_list&c=27
     
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    I had thermally lined curtains made that trail the floor 50mm.Toastie /no draft
     
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    Although we have silver screens outside I use a normal screen cover on the inside the ones you use to keep out sun in summer on your car . I trap it in place with the sun visors . Bought XXL size I think sold for vans and trucks. Also have two long cushions I bad to fit in door well. Both of these adaptations make a big difference . :Smile:
     
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    One of the annoying things about the Startrail are the vents under the bench seats. I vent on each side opens to the underseat locker and the other vent straight to the outside, presumeably underneath the van. This vent ensures a nice cold blast of air around the ol' tootsies, an obvious design enhancement to ensure that frozen feet can slip into wellington boots easier that hot, swollen feet.
     
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    Gaffa tape over the vent in the locker....problem solved :thumb:
     
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    It isn't rocket science to make-up some curtains (thermal backed ideally) to fasten round the cab in front of the cab seats so they can still be used - this is what we had on a few of our motorhomes and worked well. If you don't want to install a curtain track I'm sure it would be possible to use sticky Velcro on the cab surround and sew on Velcro on the curtains so they can be easily put up and taken down again

    ... hmmm ... might look at doing this myself as I do have some nice curtain material still but any bet I haven't got enough! :shout: ... I saw 3 pairs of nice blue thermal-backed curtains at the car boot sale yesterday, new in their wrapping ... I KNEW I should have got them!!! :Doh:
     
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    Climbed under the MH this morning and discovered that it has FOUR of these vents. Two on each side.
    The drivers side are blanked off, presumeably because the exhaust passes directly by them and in the event of a leak could allow fumes into the cab.
    The two on the passenger side are still in operation, but hopefully not for long, as blanks have been ordered from North East Truck and Van and should be here by tomorrow (if they can get them, the storeman says :Doh:).
    With any luck this will sort out the draught problem and keep a smile on SWMBOs face. :thumb:

    Thank you for the part number as the storeman hadn't a clue what I was talking about, and even asked where I got the number and was it a genuine Fiat number. :RollEyes: If he doesn't ring me back I will know that he can get them.
    If all else fails, use gaffer tape (duct tape)

    I'll let you know how it goes.
     
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    Autocruise cold under the seats

    The part number is the correct one, I fitted two to my motorhome. I have also stuffed four old socks with old 'T' shirts and forced them into the hollow channels. You can get to them by removing the drop down plastic seat covers and anything that is in the way then you will feel the holes that need stuffing up. Another source of cold air coming in is through the heater vent. When I park up I turn the control over to circulate and it closes the outside vent.
     
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    Thanks rolandrat.
    I will be stuffing holes as soon as I can :Blush:
    As I previously said, I turn the air to recirculate rather than fresh, but thanks all the same. :thumb:
     
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    Autocruise cold under the seats

    If anyone decides to block off the draught causing holes in the box sections at the back of the seats it would be advisable to use man made fibre material against cotton as it breaths better and will stay fresh. When I did mine the difference was noticed straight away. Cotton holds moisture.
     
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    After ordering the (their description, not mine):
    P A1355707080 N/STK ORNAMENT, qty 2, @ 4.85 EACH, yesterday morning, North East Truck and Van had them for me by 08.00hrs this morning. :thumb:

    I collected them this morning and they are now in place on the MH.
    I have resisted stuffing holes for the time being as I would like to see what the differance is first, and also, trace any draughts that may now occur.

    Once again a BIG thank you to all who replied and supplied the relative information. The divorce is now on hold :hug::beer:
     
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    Do they just clip into place? Do they have some sort of seal?
     
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