movan
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Not often we agree JJ, but absolutely spot on there
I am simply passing a message on .... just saying.
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Not often we agree JJ, but absolutely spot on there
No damage and we have good cctv of the assailant however, when forensic officer attended he took nothing becuase they arent allowed to climb ladders, please can one of you post on forum we are now relying solely on cctv. i think this is so unfair. we offered to take photos of full footprints and to be talked through fingerprint removal but apparently that is not allowed either. want other funsters to be aware that getting justice is stacked on offenders side not ours. ty gail tony and robert
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Do you know it's called "working at height training" now. Our installers have to have it for using a step up no more than 30cm but still working at height!The Church at St Stephen had windows smashed, when plod arrived he refused to climb a ladder as "he hadn't had any ladder training"
The point has been made by several people that this was an attempted break in and nothing was stolen. Yes this was a crime but today's scarce police resources are better used on more serious matters where someone has either been hurt or valuables stolen and there is a decent chance of a prosecution. I'm sorry for Gail as the victim of this crime but that is life. It is what it is. It is a similar situation to the ambulance that took me to hospital; the first one was diverted due to a suspected heart attack and although mine was urgent, it was not critical/life threatening and nobody should have an issue with that.......Is this a classic example of our Politically Correct "nanny" society!! or is it just this particular policeman/woman being lazy or maybe even "not bothering" because nothing was stolen!!
Some years ago we had our caravan broken into (by smashing a window) and quite a few items stolen including the dinette seat cushions!!
We informed the police and a PC came round to take a statement and see the damage - when I asked him to check for fingerprints he refused on the grounds that the thief probably wore gloves!!
A few days later my wife saw a couple of small tents on some waste ground near us, one had the door flap wide open and there in full view was our missing dinette seat cushions laid out as a bed!! She informed the Police who then recovered them (but not the other stolen goods - mini TV, radio & DVD player)
Some time later the Police told me that the case was now closed so I asked if the culprit (who was known to the Police) was convicted - they informed me that he had not even been questioned because he would just say he found the setee cushions at the side of the road and the Police would not be able to prove otherwise!!
As I doubt very much that this thief even owned any gloves, far less wore them, had the Police bothered to dust for prints then I'm sure they would have got a conviction!!
As an ex serviceman I am a great supporter of our Police force but my opinion of the outcome of my case and the one posted by @movan is that the Police are instructed from above not to bother with what they consider to be minor break ins etc.
The opinion of any serving or retired Police Officer on this forum would be very welcome.
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Bollocks !!!!sufficient evidence then the potential risks involved in climbing onto the roof wouldn't be justified.
The point has been made by several people that this was an attempted break in and nothing was stolen. Yes this was a crime but today's scarce police resources are better used on more serious matters where someone has either been hurt or valuables stolen and there is a decent chance of a prosecution. I'm sorry for Gail as the victim of this crime but that is life. It is what it is. It is a similar situation to the ambulance that took me to hospital; the first one was diverted due to a suspected heart attack and although mine was urgent, it was not critical/life threatening and nobody should have an issue with that.......
What a well constructed arguement.Bollocks !!!!
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Is this a classic example of our Politically Correct "nanny" society!! or is it just this particular policeman/woman being lazy or maybe even "not bothering" because nothing was stolen!!
Some years ago we had our caravan broken into (by smashing a window) and quite a few items stolen including the dinette seat cushions!!
We informed the police and a PC came round to take a statement and see the damage - when I asked him to check for fingerprints he refused on the grounds that the thief probably wore gloves!!
A few days later my wife saw a couple of small tents on some waste ground near us, one had the door flap wide open and there in full view was our missing dinette seat cushions laid out as a bed!! She informed the Police who then recovered them (but not the other stolen goods - mini TV, radio & DVD player)
Some time later the Police told me that the case was now closed so I asked if the culprit (who was known to the Police) was convicted - they informed me that he had not even been questioned because he would just say he found the setee cushions at the side of the road and the Police would not be able to prove otherwise!!
As I doubt very much that this thief even owned any gloves, far less wore them, had the Police bothered to dust for prints then I'm sure they would have got a conviction!!
As an ex serviceman I am a great supporter of our Police force but my opinion of the outcome of my case and the one posted by @movan is that the Police are instructed from above not to bother with what they consider to be minor break ins etc.
The opinion of any serving or retired Police Officer on this forum would be very welcome.
When I got my car back I found a crowbar in the passenger seat wellI got burgled about 12 years ago and quite a nice BMW was stolen.
Our wonderful police eventually found it wrapped around a tree.
It wasn't released to my insurers for weeks because, and I quote " forensics are all over it"
When I eventually got it back, the boot was full of crowbars, screwdrivers and jackets belonging to the thieves.
The police " thought they were mine"
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my son worked for sky and they sacked a fair few engineers who they caught of the ground without a harness one got his job back by stating that sky had obviously failed to teach him the importance of being harnessed at all timesSoco on the job was probably a big wendy..once had a sky engineer fit a body harness with all the safety ropes attached went out to get a ladder all just to go up 2 rungs of a ladder which was barely a tad over 7 ft in hieight...its just pathetic.
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"Health and Safety"?. I had 18 years as a Boiler and Pressure Vessel Examiner. When I started, we used our experience, a previous 18ish yrs Merchant Navy Engineer, and "Common Sense". If it looked "iffy" it was checked out and tested FIRST, we had harness`etc; available but up to us when to use it, It`s called "discretion". By the time I took early retirement it was getting silly. Anything up to 50% of a job was consumed by the endless form filling and "Ar*e Covering" exercises, put in place by people who have never DONE the work in their lives!. I had a line manager who`s favourite saying was "how long", (will a job take) to which my reply was always "How long, is a piece of string?. What he forgot was that IF anything went wrong, MY signature was on the Certificate, and it would be ME facing the Judge! Not him!.
Same with our current policing, too many back-room boys/girls trying to justify their existence The old coppers knew who the local scrotes where and where to look if something went missing!. Local people looked out for each other too, nothing like a good hiding to give a potential thief second thoughts!. no CCTV, but the elderly "curtain twitcher" could tell you who had been hanging about!. Yeh! I know, nostalgia is not what it used to be!!.
Alleged true story. Guy get disturbed by attempted burglary, rings plod, and is told stay where you are, let them finish and ring back in the morning, and we will give you a Crime Number for your insurance. Covers phone partially and says to his wife give me the shot gun. 5 min later all blues and two`s outside!. Senior plod says when its` all done can I see the shot gun sir?. He replies what gun?. The SP says the one you referred to on the phone?. I don't have a shot gun is the reply, I said to the wife their after the keys to the Shogun!
Pete
Just as well its only an "alleged" true story
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Yeh, Urban Myths, But?????????. You Never know?????????????.
I think what attracted me to it was the presumption that Plod was more concerned that a felon might get hurt than the VICTIMS of the original crime!
Pete
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That is pathetic. What bunch of sissies!I have just received text off Gsil Camperbeen trashed re a male attempting to break in through sky light. Am on phone so not sure re copy and paste but will try.
Hi funsters xx i still dont have internet so want to alert you. we had a very nice male who decided to climb onto our motorhome roof just before midnight two days ago. he proceeded to try to force the skylight open. no da,age but lotd of fingerprints and footprints.
No damage and we have good cctv of the assailant however, when forensic officer attended he took nothing becuase they arent allowed to climb ladders, please can one of you post on forum we are now relying solely on cctv. i think this is so unfair. we offered to take photos of full footprints and to be talked through fingerprint removal but apparently that is not allowed either. want other funsters to be aware that getting justice is stacked on offenders side not ours. ty gail tony and robert
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glad They are ok haven't heard for a while. Understandable with them having no internet . Please give them my regards when you contact them next and that I have had both my new knees bolted in, ta Martin from ColchesterI have just received text off Gsil Camperbeen trashed re a male attempting to break in through sky light. Am on phone so not sure re copy and paste but will try.
Hi funsters xx i still dont have internet so want to alert you. we had a very nice male who decided to climb onto our motorhome roof just before midnight two days ago. he proceeded to try to force the skylight open. no da,age but lotd of fingerprints and footprints.
No damage and we have good cctv of the assailant however, when forensic officer attended he took nothing becuase they arent allowed to climb ladders, please can one of you post on forum we are now relying solely on cctv. i think this is so unfair. we offered to take photos of full footprints and to be talked through fingerprint removal but apparently that is not allowed either. want other funsters to be aware that getting justice is stacked on offenders side not ours. ty gail tony and robert