Aspire 215

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  1. JanettaVienetta

    JanettaVienetta Read Only Funster

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    Anyone own one of these? We have just put a deposit down for a 2012 model, and wondered what others thought of it.
     
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    Hi and welcome to Fun, sorry i cant help with your model, but no doubt someone will know of it. A lot of members are away this weekend at Stratford so its a bit quiet on here
     
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    Hi, and welcome to Fun ..

    just had a look at the specs, and a review ...

    have you ordered the upgraded model?

    If not i would be concerned that the payload is only 240kg
     
  4. dewaltman

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    Good advice from jim 240 kg is a very small payload
     
  5. JanettaVienetta

    JanettaVienetta Read Only Funster

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    Mass in Running Order3060kgs (60.10cwt)Personal Effects Payload84kgs (1.65cwt)Optional Equipment Payload81kgs (1.59cwt)Conventional Load75kgs (1.47cwt)Max User Payload240kgs (4.71cwt)MTPLM3300kgs (64.82cwt)
    MIRO 3060kg
    Personal Effects Payload 84Kg
    Optional Equipment Payload 81Kg
    Conventional Payload 75Kg
    Max User Payload 240Kg
    MTPLM 3300Kg


    These are the weights as stated on the Elddis website. There is a free replating to 3500Kg, which we will, of course, be having done.

    That would bring the personal effects payload up to 284Kg. I am still a bit confused about weights (user payload v personal effects payload) etc. We would not be carrying bikes or other very heavy equipment, although an awning has been added free and we would like a solar panel eventually.

    Does that sound better? (She hopes :Confused:)

    JanettaVienetta
     
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    With a payload that Low, you need to weight absolutely everything that you put in the van to make sure that you are not overweight. Then you will need to get to a public weighbridge, with the van normally loaded and get it checked. Important to get the individual axle weights checked as it is easy to overload the back end.

    In any case, be very aware of "payload creep" whereby bits and pieces get put in the van over a period of time. I have this problem with the OH but fortunately we have about 700kg to play with. Hope that helps
     
  7. JanettaVienetta

    JanettaVienetta Read Only Funster

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    Thanks everone for your advice. We are moving to motorhoming from tenting, due to "age restrictions" :BigGrin:. So we are very used to living lightly but comfortably. Hopefully we can transfer some of these skills to our new motorhome life. If nothing else, the challenge is exciting!

    JanettaVienetta
     
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    Congratulations on your decision to purchase a motorhome.
    My only GREAT concern is your payload. If, like all of us, you fit the toys your 284kgs will be gone instantly. To be reasonably happy to tour and take essentials you need at least 350 to 500kgs. The Elddis payload is a joke on a van like the Aspire which is supposed to be a two person tourer. I would check to see if a further upgrade is possible. Most motorhomes are restricted by payload and we are all very wary of this due to the implications with the law makers. It would be best if you studied payloads and decided for yourselves.
    Good luck for the future.
     
  9. JeanLuc

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    These Aspire vans are well known for having poor payloads. That's why Eldiss had to offer a free upgrade because when the originals were launched, they were almost unusable.
    Check very carefully what the MIRO includes. For instance it normally allows 75kg for the driver - if you weigh more than that, it comes off the available payload. Passenger weight also has to be added. The standard MIRO calculation should include: 90% fuel, gas and water, 75 kg driver, EHU cable. Any extras will increase MIRO (and reduce payload). Here are some examples to consider: awning, satellite dish, TV, extra leisure battery, inverter, solar panel, engine upgrade, auto gear-box, tow-bar, bike rack - basically any equipment you want to add that is not included in the standard specification. Also note that you do not normally fill the fuel tank to 90%, neither the gas nor water. As you use the fresh water and it drains into the waste tank, this can move weight backwards (depending on the relative locations of the two tanks) thereby increasing the rear axle load. So if you are near the limit on axle loading to start with, this can tip the balance. If possible, get a van with a decent payload margin to allow for variations in usage. Being 'just OK' may not be OK if the VOSA man decides to check you.
     
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    I can't argue with that except that for gas bottles it's 80% not higher, as 'full' actually = 80% for them. So is it actually 90% of 80% they allow, Or What?

    Plus we don't know if the OP has eg a dog, cat, rat or parrot, (plus their bed, cage, dish, bowl, lead, bone, toys .....whatever) which would also eat into the payload.

    Although I don't weigh more than 75kg, afraid Pete does, collectively we are over 150kg. Just for a lark, I have weighed myself without shoes or coat - 55.7kg. Added shoes and handbag - 58.5kg. Still no coat. All adds up .....
     
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    My understanding is that standard MIRO includes 90% filling of the available capacity, so in the case of gas, it's 90% of 80% of the empty bottle capacity. That would mean in the case of a 13 kg bottle, the actual allowed weight of LPG is 9.36 kg.

    Also noted that the Aspire website shows that MIRO assumes a full tank of fuel, not 90%, but gas and water are set at 90% of capacity.

    Must say I had never considered the option of making the passenger or driver lighter in order to conserve payload. The prospect of motorhomers routinely travelling starkers but for a handbag or wallet might bring in a whole new group of 'funsters'! :Rofl1:
     
  12. JanettaVienetta

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    Thanks for all the food for thought. I guess my main problem will be with "payload creep" (Thanks for that DuxDeluxe). No dog, just a cat, who may or may not be coming with us. If weight is a real problem, he probably will stay at home. Or maybe OH will stay at home instead, depends who is the grumpiest :Laughing:

    JanettaVienetta
     
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    Think I read somewhere there is a paperwork exercise, where you can upgrade the payload on Elddis. might worth looking into.

    If i come across the link again I will post it.

    Jay.
     
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    As a new member you are excused the usual banter......but this thread is dated june 2012 and the problem will have been sorted by now.
     
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    Whilst the payload may be suitable for yourselves perhaps you should think about the situation if you decide to sell the MH at a later date. The restrictions may well put off other buyers and it could make it difficult to sell.
     
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    So what did they do, anyone know
     
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    Puzzled how it got into the 'recent' postings section
     
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    'cos Jay2015 ressurected it.
     

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