Armitages and Smart Car fire .....................

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  1. Locksmith

    Locksmith Read Only Funster

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    Just an update, I've had a few PM's from members and this prompted me to call my insurers for an update, now 4 months on Armitages have not answered a single question asked by my insurers, Armitages insurers are saying the same that they have not received any answers from Armitages as of yet.
    They can't admit liability to 3 people then change there mind Surely!
    I have talked with various engineers and they all agree that a car being towed at 50mph with the brakes on to the point where the wheels are still able to turn would result in the drums overheating first because of the way they are constructed, so although the front disc's would have been on also because of the way they are constructed they cool much more effectively. The drums heated to the point that the brake cylinders gave out spraying brake fluid under pressure inside the drums to catch fire then tyres, body etc. Armitages having found the kinked brake line said that was the fault.

    http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/motorhome-chat/34983-smart-car-catches-fire.html
     
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    hilldweller Funster Life Member

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    Not nice. You've got to wonder what Armitage's have been plotting in this time, have they been salting away assets to allow a nice easy bankruptcy ? Such things do happen all too often though usually in double glazing.
     
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    Sorry to here you have no result as yet.But on another note how are you doing with your Chris Cox A Frame? :Smile:
     
  4. Terry

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    Hi Locksmith they are burying there heads in the sand :Eeek: By not answering both there own ins and yours they are simply not admitting anything to anyone and as time goes by your own ins will stop bothering and simply you will loose your no claims :Angry::Eeek: on a knock for knock type basis - in other words it will cost them more to pursue the matter than simply write it off :Eek!:
    They are working on the principle that no one was hurt so it will/would cost you more to take them to court :Eek!: Your only chance is to keep badgering your ins or find a no win no fee who is prepared to take them on for you :thumb: Other than that camp out side there premise with a big sign and pics warning people about your plight.If you are not on there property and on a public road they nor the police can move you on :thumb:If and when you start to hurt there business that is when they will shell out -either themselves or instruct there ins to start proceedings to pay and get rid of you :thumb: A day will bring attention and the police :Rofl1: who will agree you can stay there so long as you are not causing obstruction etc,A couple more days and a call to the papers should have the desired effect :thumb:If you go down this route get a handy cam and start filming when they start threatening you :Rofl1::BigGrin::Wink:

    terry
     
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    If their insured refuses to cooperate the only thing yours can do is to issue proceedings against both the insured & their insurer & do it now. Ask your insurer to send an LBA (Letter before Action) giving them 14 days to respond positively after which they should issue proceedings in the county court
     
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    Hi there, the Chris Cox A frame has been fantastic. I have towed the smart toad more than 2000 miles been to Scotland, South Wales, North Wales and the Lake district. My Daughter was married at the weekend so I towed the smart car to the church the night before behind my VW Kombi, so after the ceremony Mandy and I had our own transport waiting and the Bride and Groom travelled the 10 miles to the reception in the Roller followed by us in our smart....:thumb:
     
  7. Douglas

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    Issue a county Court summons, but only if you are 100% percent sure of your case.

    I have issued several CCS over the years and never lost one, what usually happens is like you the company/person does not respond. Then as soon as they get the summons they get their solicitor to call you and try to talk you down of your price. but I have never agree to that if my claim is good, its good enough to go to court.

    Good luck.

    Doug...
     
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    If you dont have any luck with them we can all get together and start a riot
     
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    I think that was what Terry was inciting .....
     
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    catch up with them at one of the shows and put off prospected buyers by saying i had one of those fitted and on my way home this happened.

    still it could have been worse you could have lost the motorhome as well.
     
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    Why don't we all take turns and phone up Armitages over the next couple of weeks and make an enquiry about purchasing one of their A-frames.

    We can listen to their sales pitch, and ask they them the reasons why we should trust them and buy from them?

    Then as an aside at the end of the call we can ask them how they resolved the recent issue of their A-frame which caused a fire and burnt a Smart car out.

    Be interesting to see how they respond.

    Once they have had a few hundred calls from Funsters, they may realise the error of their ways in their behaviour and treatment of Locksmith.......

    Callum
     
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  12. Johns_Cross_Motorhomes

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    You may well find that they have been 'gagged' by their insurance company, however I would suggest you contact Trading Standards for a start and possibly the Health and Safety people.

    That should stir the pot somewhat!

    Peter
     
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    Whoa THIN ICE :Rofl1:given the recent news:Rofl1: My suggestion was to cause them as much grief as possible :thumb::BigGrin: be it via courts or showing up at there works / shows with a banner or 3 :Rofl1: I for one would never recommend them (ARMATIDGES) no matter how good there product JUST FOR THE APPALLING WAY they have treated Locksmith :thumb:
    DOES ANYONE HAVE ANY CONTACTS with any sort of press ? or we could start a internet campaign on Locksmith's behalf :thumb: sort of name and shame,that way it may well get noticed by the news :thumb:It is my understanding he has over riding priority's at this time.
    terry
     
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    I think what you suggest has got to be the next step.....:Angry:
     
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    Other vehicle insurance

    I have recently renewed the insurance on my Locksmith van, the insurance company asked if everything is the same as last year, I said "yes" .... today a letter has come to say the insurers want more money because I had vehicle fire claim. I was told that because the Smart car fire was being claimed from Armitages public liability and I have protected no claims and it would not effect my insurance, also as this is an on going claim against Armitages you wouldn't think that it would effect my other insurances yet, well it clearly does. Time to get heavy with Armitages and get them to court, because of their mistake I'm out of pocket again and still paying for it.
    :Angry:
     
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    Once it is settled in your favour an then counted as a no-fault claim, it should not count against you and any extra premium refunded. Thats what happened when I had a claim outstanding at renewal time. Although your NCB is intact through having it protected, your basic premium is loaded because of the claim and then your NCB deducted from this higher base figure.
     
  17. Locksmith

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    Chascass wrote: ‹ Select › ‹ Expand ›
    I wonder if it's worth having protected no claims discount protection because all they do is put the premiums up, we have no way of knowing if it's because of a no fault claim or the new premium rates

    Good luck

    Charlie



    My thoughts also, the premium had already jumped £75 from last year and they said all insurances had increased... now this!

    What is protected no claims? it protects the insurance you are claiming from but because you have had a claim and have to declare this, they take it from your other un-related insurances! Protected or not.
     
  18. joncris

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    My previous insurers tried that on with me after a hit & run & I pointed out that protecting my NCB is was just that & any raise in premium was in fact breaching that term. They eventually agreed but at renewal I changed insurer anyway. Also a vehicle fire is hardly your fault
     
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    WELL WHAT THE LATEST NEW THEN :thumb::thumb: we are all waiting for the next installment :Eek!::Eek!::Eek!::Eek!::Eek!:
     
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