Are a-frames legal

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  1. Patrick

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    Just wondering, if the stories about them are TRUE?
     
  2. Bryan

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    What stories would that be, Patrick?
     
  3. vwalan

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    they must be as just about every caravan as an a frame attaching it to the car. ha ha .put your filled gas bottles on the aframe .i,m off .:Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    ERE WE GO AGIN :Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    are you that bored Patrick...:Rofl1:
     
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    He's trying to divert us from *that* picture.
     
  7. vwalan

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    off topic ,how do i clean my stale water tank out .ideas gratefully recieved , thank you in advance.
     
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    If you've heard this story before, don't stop me, because I'd like to hear it again.

    (Groucho Marx)

    :Rofl1::Rofl1:
     
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    does sex and travel come into it .we are m,homers .
     
  10. haganap

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    why don't you get Jan to have her own log in? something like Jan&patrick?

    Oh by the way,

    No there not, I have a friend who is a road traffic officer whom applies pegusas, Aframe theory and has studied this subject at great length including trips to as far away as Manchester in the name of research.. He says and I quote " a mate at work told me there illegal" trust me he should know.

    Anyhow, the preffered option for the haganaps, is to steal a car when we arrive somewhere. It costs a lot less on fuel and its great teaching the kids to drive in someone else's motor. I would rather get done for TWOK than done for having an Aframe.
    :thumb::thumb:
     
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    daughters boyfriend is a detective constable so i asked him.......his reply....dont ask stupid questions and whats an A frame anyway????:Rofl1:
     
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    Whilst on holiday in Cornwall last week my wifes exhaust fell off and we had to call out the RAC. When we told him that we were on holiday and we had a motorhome he assumed that we had towed the car on a trailer. "You haven't got one of those A-frames have you" he said, "no I said, the wife drove down. Why do you ask" he said that he doesn't know how people get away with it as legally you are not allowed to tow anything that is driveable. If that's the case why is it allowed.
     
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    Well done, nice Catch Pat. :thumb:
     
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    short answer.... you get away with it because no-one in the UK, including the police and VOSA, give a monkeys as long as its safely/properly/securely fitted. :thumb:

    can you imagine the time and resources involved in bringing a prosecution to court when there is no precedence already set......:Eeek:
     
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    and we have to make an allowance as most rac/aa men cant read. thats why they put cars on their little fold up dollies and keep to 20 on a normal road and 40 on a motorway .never seen one drive that slow.
     
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    Yes, already!

    Yes they are legal in the UK, bit dodgy abroad at the mo tho :Smile:
     
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    Orange juice !! :thumb: And no, it does not work on A Frames as well ! :Rofl1:
     
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    hi jaws .i meant the drinking water .only joking . never had to clean any of mine in 10 yrs .ijust put clean water from the uk tap system in that will do it easily. it does work for cleaning aframes but as i,m on a metre i use water from the water but .cant pay for water .
     
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    The law regards this as an unbraked trailer and you are allowed to tow up to 750 kg Gross Trailer Weight, not a car?s kerb weight. The figure you have to use is the car?s Gross Vehicle Weight or Maximum Permitted Weight. This is usually at least 300 - 400 kg more than the kerb weight. We have no knowledge of any car sold in the UK that has a GVW under 750 kg. The only vehicle we know that is completely legal to tow with an A-frame is the French Aixam small "car". This is a full four seater and details can be obtained from Aixam UK on 01926 886100. An A-frame or dolly can only be used to recover a broken down vehicle to a place of safety. Transporting a car is, therefore, illegal. A-frames may be offered with a braking system that applies the car's brakes. These do not conform to the law as the car then becomes a "braked trailer" and has to conform to European Directives contained within the Construction and Use Regulations. It does not conform to the European Directive 71/320/EEC and amendments regarding braking requirements in any way. The use of this A-frame for transportation is illegal. It is still OK for use to recover a vehicle to a place of safety.:tears:
     
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    hi buttons ,i think you readit wrong .fitting an a frame to a car makes it a trailer with brakes fitted regardless of weight. and they must work.
    some dont use a sliding hitch and use other means of applying the breaks .electrically or hydrolicly or air. these do meet the requirements so i dont think we can actually generalise and say aframes are illegal.
    there was one at malvern last year controlled by a nintendo ds contraption very nice .i liked that one.
     
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