Alde Heating

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  1. Brian and Jo

    Brian and Jo Funster Life Member

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    has anyone yet truly mastered the art of using Alde heating.last night had no hot water and no heating,and this morning after a lot of fiddling and generally not knowing what I was doing,we have heating and enough hot water for the whole site:LOL::LOL:
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    Hi @Brian and Jo

    Have you tried reading the instructions;) our flair has the old slider controls for the Alde heating and it is a doddle, I don't know why everything has to go all electronic and then you need a degree just to switch the heating on.

    I think you will have the same functions as ours plus a few more as well, so you will be able to do hot water on it own on gas or electric (or both) with various power levels on the electric, then you will be able to switch on the pump for heating and you will have two ways to control the temperature either by cycling the pump on and off to the thermostat demand but with a hot boiler or by constantly running the pump and controlling the boiler temperature to the demands of the thermostat.

    Then you can run the pump on its own without the boiler so that you can use engine heat in the Alde heating system while you are driving I think the pump has to be set to control by the thermostat and you need the optional heat exchanger of course.

    Then finally you can switch on the "motor pump" and send warm water around the engine from the heat exchanger (heating will need to be on).

    I should have said the consequence of running the system with the pump on continuous and the thermostat controlling the boiler is that you will end up with no or very little hot water, only used that setting once.

    Have fun.

    Martin
     
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    Thx Martin,the instruction manual is some help but a bit like the Karma Sutra,very complicated to a techno thicko like me.And you are right you do need a degree:LOL:.but I think it's a case of the more you use it the easier the operation gets.thx
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    Hopefully

    Best of luck.

    Martin
     
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    We have it and wouldn't be without it now. It's brilliant!

    It's hot water priority so if it's switched on and you have either of the fuel sources switched on you can't not get hot water.

    Heating is thermostat controlled.

    Does the display look like this:

    upgraded-alde-control-panel.jpg
     
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    With it switched on, press the menu button and you should get this screen:

    Alde-400-x-300.jpg


    Controls from the top:

    The first one is central heating temperature. Plus to make it warmer, minus to turn it down same as your heating at home. You won't get heating as soon as you switch on. It heats the hot water first.
    The second one with the shower symbol is a hot water boost. It makes the hot water a bit hotter so it's better for showering. Takes about 20 mins on ours.
    Third line is to select electric fuel source. 1kw, 2kw, 3kw or off. Obviously this is the one to use if you have EHU. Doesn't work otherwise and should be selected to off.
    Last one is to select gas as the fuel source. Just on or off. You need to make sure it's off if you're on EHU.

    The spanner symbol takes you to another menu with more advanced stuff, timers etc. I've never really bothered with any of them.

    If you have the little green light illuminated in the power button the boiler is running.
     
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    We to have the Alde heating system and find it easy enough to work now although initially I did struggle .
     
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    Instructions for some stuff just confuses me more. At home we have heating control 7 days different times etc and it kept coming on in the night. Could not master it so got an electrician to put an on/off switch in the power supply, problem sorted. Think some stuff is to clever for its own good.
     
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    We have Alde, a good system, but in looking for help and helping others I don't think I have yet seen the same controller twice :)

    and our manual doesn't have our controller in it :unsure:
     
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    Thank you all for your input,most helpful.i think we are getting there slowly:cool:.i have to say that in case Mo reads this:LOL::LOL:.
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    Not sure if anyone else has experienced that Gas for heating is the best input. Using 3Kw on electric can lead to some site's power tripping and waking up with no hot water or heating. You have to think about this system as you would at home. Let it run. The heat is not so instantaneous as the Truma blown air. We keep ours at 20 to 22deg during the day and evening and then let it drop down to 15 during the night. Then it switches back on at 6.30 so that by 8 the van is lovely and warm. It's very simple to set up on the extra menu.
     
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    Gas is good for sure BUT if you have been stung a fortune for leccy you might as well use it, ours only has the 2kw or 500w setting on leccy for that very reason.

    Martin
     
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    I would not say you are a "Thicko"...:lipssealed:

    Well may be a little....:giggler:

    Them pictures of control`s above are the same as mine... I told you how to drive it... :*

    :rofl:
     
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    While in Durness in January at -12C and blowing like I have never seen or felt before, I had mine on both,(gas and elec3Kw) the only way I could maintain 20C

    I have been told that 3Kw is about 12A, so all OK unless you try to boil the kettle at same time :), presuming of course you are on a 16A supply, not very common on the continent (y)
     
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    Which manual is the Karma Sutra you mention Brian, will it help me :rolleyes:
     
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    Brilliant system. Far better than our blown air heating in our last van. As indicated before hot water has priority over heating, that said it's very quick on either gas or electric. A must have option for us from now on. Our control panel is slightly different to others I've seen, net result the same......plenty of hot water and a toasty van. (y)
     
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    Hi Mo I think we are getting the hang of it now . I don't thinkwe were giving the system enough time:doh:patience was never my strong point:LOL:
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    Larry I think all post 69ers are unhelpable :LOL::LOL:
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    I've got the older slider/pre digital version too and was considering upgrading to the latest digital version, but after using it I'm happy with it as it is.
    Like some posts have said, the later versions can be programmed time wise but basically we turn it up when we are cold and down when it's hot.
     
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    I understand that you can add a danfoss tp5000 thermostat/timer to the old slider controller, a guy on Facts called Venwood did it and wrote it up, if you have access on the other side you might find it, it was on a Flair 8000.

    Martin
     
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