Alde 3020 heating issues

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  1. bladerunner

    bladerunner Funster

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    i am presently in a valley near kitzbuhel. The aide 3020 heater is lovely with gas but I am getting through bottles too quickly. On electricity it reaches only around 18'c ( and costs a lotto).

    Last year I remember being toasty warm with just electric.

    Only fault recorded is "panel failure 2" which is condensation in panel - I have had that many times and this is actually a new control panel from smc with dehumidifying sachets of silica fixed behind.

    And good ideas re fixes?

    Frankia factory only suggestion was detour to Munich to truma factory! This is supposed to be a holiday.

    I had a problem with the frost water dump dumping all water when in koblenz at -10'c - this was bodged/fixed by frankia after a detour to their factory near Bayreuth.

    Would love to stay out for a good few weeks but can't risk running out of gas.

    Will think about refillable gaslow tanks for future trips. A snip at £700 I'm told!!!


    Trying to remain positive and KBO, but worried as future retirement plans were all about being comfy in a ski resort over winter.

    Ta
     
  2. Chipster

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    Can you use a mix setting? Gas and electricity?
     
  3. DavidG58

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    we can use both on our Alde, not sure what model we have

    I was in Grantown on Spey this time last year at -15C overnight, really struggled to get up to 20C inside with both gas and electric

    shut all vents if not already done, that might help
     
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    Wondering now if Maybe we should have stuck with Truma instead of ticking the Alde option for our new van!!
     
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    I think most of my issues were wind chill effects, it was seriously cold and pretty windy

    At anything down to 0C we can get toasty warm really quickly (y)
     
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    Gas consumption is a minimum of 245 grams/hour and a maximum of 405 grams/hour actual burn time on propane.

    Near as makes no difference 2hrs 15mins per kg of gas.....or 29hrs constant to a full bottle.
    Of course the actual time will be longer as the boiler wont be running 100% of the time.
     
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  7. Phillybarbour

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    Sorry can't help with the display fault, but you will use way to much gas to survive on gas alone in very low temps, and as you have said the Alde system is not brill in really low temps on electric only.

    We found all the issues your having with our last van, solution which you could still do now (if you went out and bought one) was top up the Alde heating system with an oil filled radiator plugged in, we found by setting the temp higher on the radiator than the Alde the van was fine and electric consumption was still high but not as high. Radiator made it warm and Alde system made sure there we no cold spots in the background. Covert to refillables is a big help you would still need to fill every 4 days even with a 2 X 13kg system which we have.

    Current can will run on electric gas or diesel so problem solved.
     
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  8. sallylillian

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    The panel failure log entry is spurious I was told by Alde in Sweden and they said ignore it? Mine is in a dry barn with a humidifier running at 50% so no way is it damp and I get tons of these log entries.
    You could use a local cylinder with regulator back fed through the BBQ point if you have one?
     
  9. bladerunner

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    Thanks guys. All very helpful ( as I knew motorhome fun would deliver!!).

    SITREP
    I had the foresight to have brought with me a small oil filled radiator from b n q for tuppence and it is delivering the goods right now. GOK what the 'lecccy Bill will be but hey ho!

    Being a bear of very little brain, what I can't understand is that I can get up to 23'c at home on lecccy as a trial, but not here. It is not especially cold presently, only -2 ish.
    The Alde underfloor heating is soooooo lovely when it does work!
     
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    Helpful indeed

    I have run dehumidifier as well and still get the error message. Plus "new" control panel helpfully lifted from a new van in SMC show room came pre installed with about 15 of the error messages!

    No external BBQ source..
     
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    You can buy a local gas cyclinder and gas pigtail. We have standardised gas pressure (30mbar) and fittings across the EU so its easy to replace your UK cylinder with a local one.
     
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    In our 9m van I opted to have a Webasto diesel heater in the hab area as well as the Alde system. Experience in our last vehicle was that the Alde could take a long time to get everywhere up to temp and used a lot of gas when in the mountains in Austria even when using electric and gas.

    Have to say it was a good decision - instant quick blown heat and doesn't eat much diesel.
     
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    Is it noisy?
     
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    Not at all, less than a fan heater I would say and chucks out 2kw.

    A little noise outside but no more than the sound of the Alde flue on full tilt
     
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    Interesting thanks.
     
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    Have you checked your fluid levels as they may be at or below minimum and the efficiency will be affected
     
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    I don’t want to be the harbinger of bad news but what you describe and based on a similar experience I wonder if your gas regulator is in the early stages of failure.

    Also as you are in Germany I would consider getting a pair of Alugas refillables fitted. They are cheaper and lighter than Gaslow and just as good.
     
  20. jonandshell

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    Most skiers seem to get through a 13kg bottle every 3 days.
    Your consumption may not be exeptional at all.
    Gaslow or a big fixed tank has to be the solution for you. Remember that the oil filled radiator will keep the living area warm, but your pipes in the double floor are vulnerable to frost without the Alde pipes radiating heat in that area.
     
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