Alarms - Yes or No

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  1. Zigisla

    Zigisla Funster

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    Having now trawled through the plethora of threads on this very emotive subject, I have just one question.
    Has anyone, with a sophisticated alarm system, and I’m thinking more of the Strikeback (No 1 on the thread count so far) and high end Cobra (No 2 on your threads), ever been robbed or unit stolen with the Alarm set?
     
  2. Jim

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    Alarms are to keep you and your contents safe, and rather the Immobiliser should take care of the unit theft. That said vehicles with sophisticated alarms and immobilisers are stolen every day. Immobilisers are hard to defeat so very often the theft is made using the owners keys.

    I rely on two things to keep my vehicle from being stolen. The regular factory fitted immobiliser, for when crooks don't have my keys, and a phone operated immobiliser/tracker for when they have stolen my keys and negated my alarm and immobiliser with them.

    I rely on the alarm to deter crooks and give me a restful sleep within; knowing that I will be woken should someone try to break in. And to scare the shite out of them with internal sirens if someone breaks in when I'm not in it.
     
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  3. Robert Clark

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    If alarms weren't an effective deterrant then insurance companies would not insist on them so often
     
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    A very good point Robert, but insurance companies insist on alarms that range from £185 - £599. So, do the higher range ones deter more, or is it just piece of mind?
     
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    I am with Jim on this. Alarm immobilisor a MUST. I also have a tracker (self fit in my case) which will notify me if any breakin takes place. With mine it also can be linked to various sensors. The ones I chose to link up were:-
    1. Alarm
    2. Immobilisor.
    3. Fuel Shut Off.

    These were the ones I felt were of most use for Security. Also enable Geo-Fencing so if your Motorhome is moved it will notify & track.
     
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    The cost of motorhomes vary considerably as do the uses that people use them for.

    I would suggest that a couple that park their motorhome in a locked garage, (alarmed) with security posts and only ever travel to Caravan Club sites, never park on car parks or open parking places, have a different security criteria to a couple who live in or are enjoying an extended trip, travelling around Europe.

    With all of the permutations in between.
     
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  7. Big Nick

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    I think the cost element for me is more to try and guard against the alarm unit failing or a fault in the installation leaving me miles from home and high and dry!

    Nothing is 100% but a system that's been tried and tested by many others before you, fitted by a company that's highly experienced at the job and totally familiar with the product they supply is worth a few extra quid in my view

    No prizes for guessing who springs to mind re the above!
     
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    If you have to have one no need to spend more then £4-500. I dont see that lighting the van up like a Christmas tree as any kind of deterrent.....the opposite probably true (again my opinion) flashing leds behind windscreen sufficient

    You can go on Thatcham site and ID Approved commercial van company's. it good to have local support I think. I like Autowatch, have found them very reliable, they now do specific systems for motorhomes.... You only need a 2 for 1 upgrade as you already have a cat 2 immobiliser..

    https://www.thatcham.org/security

    have been at this 25 years and not been burgled yet..I don't even have an alarm now. just the flashing led in windscreen ( fitted outside blind) and cheap window and door alarms. dummy Cobra alarm stickers:) better to fit a safe (again my opinion) as most either opportunist theft(door unlocked) or smash and grab with alarm sounding...Secondary dead locking a good investment, with security plates on door handles....stop them getting in in the first place.
     
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    I think that the OP is asking about motorhomes
     
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    I think the problem with a single internal flashing led is that an attacker may assume it's the engine immobiliser rather than a perimeter alarm
     
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    Thanks to you all for the input so far. I will have the factory fitted Fiat alarm and immobiliser as standard and have, ready to be fitted, a Smartrack Tracker System. So it is the alarm side that is still posing the thought process at the moment.
     
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    In answer to the original question, I have strikeback growler fitted an not had a break in or the Moho stolen, last year stayed at various UK sites & two weeks in France, this year various UK sites and 3 weeks touring around France.

    We do use Aires and as other Funsters will point out some are better than others, but if it looked iffy we didn't stop. Though if an aire is empty on arrival you have no idea if it's a crime hot spot. Having the alarm set does give us peace of mind.
     
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    A simple siren alarm is only good for your own peace of mind.

    When did you last see a crowd of people rushing to a vehicle whos alarm was sounding to see what was happening........NEVER.
    They are so commonplace nobody takes any notice....even on houses.

    A more complicated alarm/immobiliser may stop vehicle theft but the siren side is just the same....ignored or complained about.
     
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    Vanbitz Strikeback fitted when we were living and touring in our van. Felt very safe and secure and happy to leave the van parked up when we visited places. Now, no real alarm system but we only tour locally and have a much smaller/cheaper van now. Horses for courses?
     
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    Your wrong
     
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    Don't take my opinion! Reevsie posted this yesterday

    Insurance companies aren't known for throwing their money around for no reason, so why do so many insurers give a discount when a qualifying alarm is installed? Insurance companies work on facts, current facts, not opinions, garnered and formed ten, twenty, thirty years ago.

    How many of us would ignore, turn our backs, skulk away, if we saw a motorhome with an alarm sounding and an obvious burglary taking place? In this day and age of selfies and social media, can anyone honestly say that they wouldn't take a picture? phone the police, ask what was happening? I cannot believe that people would stand by and watch a motorhome be vandalised or riffled and do or say nothing.
     
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    But then, you have a vested interest to say that Eddie.
    It may be different on a campsite but 8n the street or supermarket carpark nobody takes a blind bit of notice, often walking right next to the vehicle.
     
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    I refer to my previous explanations. Are you saying that you would turn a blind eye if you say a motorhome, being burgled?
     
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    You may be right, but a decent Motorhome alarm with multiple external LED's will have a deterrant effect
     
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    It would be interesting to know how many of the "half the other motorhomers" wandered over to ask if everything was ok or how long it took the police to arrive after all the calls regarding an alarm were made.

    I stand by my comment.
     
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