Advice on leaf springs

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  1. Gromett

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    I have just been for my MOT and have got a couple of fail points but nothing serious for the first time in 3 years. However he has said the rear leaf springs are marginal passes.

    They are currently 1 leaf only. I have a supplier who can do me a two leaf set for £288 inc vat which includes all the bushes, clamps and bolts etc.

    I can also get 3 leaf set as well but not sure if it is worth going the extra for it?

    Any advice would be appreciated.

    I will be installing spring assister later in the year but the leaf springs definitely need replacing now.
     
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    my opinion for what its worth
    replace springs as standard fit a air ride system
    we fitted air ride and what a difference to handling and my headlights now work without blinding oncoming drivers
    well worth it
     
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    why do the need to be replaced ??------maybe they are overloaded ? if so, then an air helper spring might be all you need ??
    Nigel & Pamala
     
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    I will re-iterate. I am getting a spring assister fitted later. Currently I am just getting the leaf springs replaced because they are totally shot.

    They are inverted so badly that the axle is pushing all the way into the rubber shocks on the chassis. Body roll is scary.

    fitting spring assisters or air ride would not help as the leaf springs are shot.

    The manufacturers have just gotten back to me regarding a price on the three leaf kit and it is £336 fully inclusive.

    As this is only £48 more I will go for the 3 leaf rather than the 2 leaf.

    Currently it is only single leaf and I definitely want to improve on this.

    Thanks :thumb:
     
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    Not overloaded. All my weight (water tanks, 150KG battery bank etc etc) are all towards the front of the van. The current springs are under rated for continuous use.
     
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    It will be a different van with the 3 leaf spring kit
    You will stop and get out just to make sure its your van
    :Rofl1:
     
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    Hi Karl, Read my thread "Saggy Bottom". Jones springs at Darlaston are your men. Give them a ring and they will re tension your springs and put in an extra leaf or 2. If you tell them exactly what you are doing including loaded axle weights, they will make them up to your requirements. There will be no need for air lift kits afterwards. It will work out at least half the price you are now looking at with the air kit and it will be a better job.

    Posted from sunny Benidorm :Cool:
     
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    I have read it. It would either involve a drive to them which isn't possible at the moment or having my van in the workshop for 3-5 days which isn't practical with me being a fulltimer. It would also work out more expensive due to the labour charges.

    £336 seems like a decent price as it includes all the other sundries needed to fit.
     
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    My man will have them off and on in half a day, with change out of £80.
     
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    stop and get out just to make sure nothing has fallen off due to the hard ride more like.
     
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    You obviously have no idea how modern parabolic leaf springs work,
    I would imagine they are parabolic, Right Gromett?

    Also leaf springs WILL fail at some point, single springs are very dangerous when this happens, Multi leafs are by far the safer option
     
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    doesnt really matter as i wouldnt have a European motorhome with, what is basically, 19th century technology 'cart' springs anyway.
     
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    If it works, Why change it

    And leaf springs go back to medieval times
     
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    I can't get to him. I am currently tied to the area near my Mums as she is in hospital twice over the next 2 months and I need to stay close and then again for 2 month after that for her recovery.
     
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    Hi Karl go for the 3 leaf ones, you will be amazed at the difference in both ride height and quality:thumb: You may well decide the air ride is not needed/required. I changed from 3.5t springs to 5 t ones on my old Iveco :thumb: I had the springs off a recovery truck that I had bought for spares and forgot about :BigGrin: since it was at my sons yard :Wink:
    I like you priced up new springs or extra leafs at about 350 a pair but as soon as I said for my M/H the price jumped up to just shy of 500 qiud :Eeek: it was only when my son heard me on the phone telling them there was no difference between the vans and m/h springs and they were trying it on :BigGrin: that he reminded me I had some :Doh::thumb:
    Terry
     
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    They should do nicely Karl:thumb:
    We have a factory about 10 miles away that makes springs so never though of looking on ebay :Smile:
    Terry
     
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    They usually add a leaf to the old one to get it back to original spec. Apparently they do lose a little each time they are re-tensioned, so they put a leaf extra in to bring it up to what it was as a new spring.

    Third leaf should keep things that way - expect a slightly harder ride than usual, but I dare say with the weight of the motor home and contents it should iron out any earlier stiffness.

    At least they don't break on speed bumps like coils do!:thumb:
     
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