A question of GAS Again!

Discussion in 'How To' started by jonsylv, Jul 29, 2008.

  1. jonsylv

    jonsylv Deleted User

    I said "GAS Again" as I presume its an on going problem?

    In Jan 09 two large Autotrail's will set of for Europe (chasing the sun) for the first time with little or no intent of returning until spring or summer.

    We both have Red Gas bottles, mine has 2 x 13kgs and our friends has 2 x 6kgs.

    What is the simplest way for us to re-fill / exchange while in France, Portugal & Spain?

    While in German last year we noted a brass adaptor set for sale, this enabled UK red bottles to be connected to a German Caravan ( a HOBBY caravan). is this what we need or is it sadly more complex than that....

    We understandbly want a holiday not a prolonged GAS bottle learning course! :thanks2:
     
  2. Wildman

    Wildman Read Only Funster

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    Hi as far as I know you cannot get propane cyl refilled or exchanged in Europe, however there is an adapter that screws in to the bottle and with a suitable connection (extra but available) can be refilled WITH care by your self at an LPG station. I bought mine from ebay see below
    Lpg Propane gas uk red bottle filling adapter on eBay, also, Other Restaurant Catering, Restaurant Catering, Business, Office Industrial (end time 02-Aug-08 14:43:02 BST)
    I bought mine from soneone else, not sure if he still has them but quality was supurb and instructions excellent.
    LPG Propane gas bottle filling adapter autogas on eBay, also Mobile Touring Caravan Parts, Caravan Parts, Campers, Caravans Motorhomes, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 17-Jun-08 20:22:25 BST)
    A number of different adapters are available to screw into that enabling you to fill in most countries.
     
  3. pappajohn

    pappajohn Funster Life Member

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    hi,

    personally i would opt for a 'local' gas bottle and regulator if going to europe for that length of time.

    the initial cost would be a pain but if you plan on going regularly you only need buy them once.
    you just need to know if your van is running at 37mb as i beleive all euro regulators run this pressure.....the older calor ones run 30mb.
    it states on your calor regulator what pressure it is.

    simply remove the uk regulator and fit the euro one unless you have an auto changeover setup, then you have problems.

    no point taking two uk bottles as you cant fill them so you have space in the locker for a euro bottle.

    i'v heard you can buy both bottle and regulator at hypermarkets and some filling stations.

    john
     
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    geoff1947 Read Only Funster

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    I take 1 x 6kg Propane bottle plus a Camping gaz bottle. This can be exchanged anywhere in Europe and as we go on site every few days we save gas by using electric.Hasn't failed us yet:thumb:
     
  5. Don Madge

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    Many motorhomers opt for the refillable bottles these days, initial outlay steep but it's peace of mind not to have to worry about running out of gas in a strange country.

    Don
     
  6. keith

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    Hi jonsylv
    I agree with Don on this one. We bought a Gaslow some years ago & wouldn't do it any other way now.
    If cost is a problem go for one refillable & carry a normal Calor as back up.
    We have been able to use this system for the past few years in France, Spain & Portugal. Most years we have returned with the Calor bottle still not empty.
    The only problem is in Spain where the fill stations are very few, but Portugal & France have many in the motorway service areas & it's advertised with the fuel prices at the road side.
    Have s good trip, we will be around the South as well this winter.

    Keith
     
  7. bobandjanie

    bobandjanie Funster Life Member

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    Hi jonsylv
    The only safe way to do it is :

    Gaslow

    OR
    Home Page | Mthgassystems

    The adaptors on Ebay are not safe you have no 80% cut off valve on a Calor bottle I have not seen the adds for a long time but he did put on it. If you over fill the bottle open the bottle and let some out. Wow its up to you, you pays your money and takes your chance. But dont do it near me. Bob.:Eek!:
     
  8. Wildman

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    If one is incapable of ensuring the bottle is empty before you start to fill and also incapeable of reading the gas gauge, paying attention when the 80% limit is reached (The number of litres for different bottle sizes is engraved on the adapter and is already calculated to the 80% so no working out to do) then go for exchangeable bottles. Maybe also you should get someone else to fill your car fuel tank whilst you are at it.)Gaslow are not without problems and have had problems with the safety valves.


    I am sick and tired of people rubbishing a darn good system because they have no idea about it at all. I have no connection with any firm making or selling the things only a satisfied customer who still has enough common sense to use the thing properly. All gas and fuels are potentially dangerous and must be handled with due care and concideration.
     
  9. haganap

    haganap Funster Life Member

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    I think nowadays the gaslow system for the length of time you intend to be away will cure most problems.

    Quite easy to fit yourself and can be basically filled up in any garage in the continent. You can check that the adaptors used in the countries you are going to are the same as here in the uk.
     
  10. Terry

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    Hi Bobandjane,I am with wildman on this!!!!! the adapters are easy to use and nothing to go wrong --- unlike the gaslow----see some of the storys about things leaking,loss of gas etc, If you stick to filling empty bottles ie 6kg bottle holds 12 ltrs of gas etc then you will not overfill !!! if you cannot work out that a 4kg bottle holds 8 ltrs of gas then perhaps you should pay 400 quid plus for a gaslow system that comes with sticking floats etc :Rofl1::Rofl1::Rofl1:
    heres alink to the adapters :thumb:
    SUPERIOR LPG Propane gas bottle filling adapter autogas on eBay, also Mobile Touring Caravan Parts, Caravan Parts, Campers, Caravans Motorhomes, Cars, Parts Vehicles (end time 23-Jul-08 21:42:44 BST)
    terry
     
  11. Blondi

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    Has anybody had any problems using these ebay adaptors on garage forecourts?
    Knowing how twitchy attendants can be over things like mobile phones and the correct colour of fuel cans, I would imagine they would go ape over lumps of weird piping sticking out of gas bottles. :Eek!:
     
  12. Terry

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    Hi,I have used it all over the country no problem.Having said that I do fit it to the empty bottle before going onto the forecort,then just open gas locker door, connect and fill.At my local garage and morrisons I have fiiled 1 then reconnected to another bottle and filled that also,without problem. :thumb::Rofl1:
    terry
    edit no weired piping just the adapter conected to the bottle to which you conect the filling pump
     
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  13. DuxDeluxe

    DuxDeluxe Funster Life Member

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    I haven't had any problems with Gaslow, but I have the new bottles which have resolved some of the issues with the old ones.
     
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