A message from Spanish police about traffic law.

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  1. Billy23

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    I'm not on Facebook but I suspect Spanish motoring law, even in precis form, has just filled Facebook's server!:)
     
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    I thought it was going to say A frames are now legal in Spain :whistle:
     
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    Jim, you are correct, but this is Spain and if that's what they say that's what they do like it or pay the fine......... simples.
     
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    A good example, then, of "Do what the country you are in says, not what you would like to be the case" :)
     
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    in total agreement.. wasn't challenging the Spanish Traffic laws.. heaven forbid

    I was pointing out that the use of A frames in the UK doesn't come under traffic laws.

    Top Tip... When driving in Spain always keep a €50 note in your driving license.. ;)
     
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    Spain signed the
    Vienna Convention on Road Traffic on the 8th Nov 1968

    Cross-border vehicles[edit]

    One of the main benefits of the convention for motorists is the obligation on signatory countries to recognise the legality of vehicles from other signatory countries. The following requirements must be met when driving outside the country of registration

     
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    When in third world countries, right or wrong, it's best to obey police officers. :)
     
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    no problem here in portugal , much more civilised country
     
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    Nonsense, absolute nonsense!! Don't even think about it.

    Bryan
     
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    Jim,
    "Top Tip... When driving in Spain always keep a €50 note in your driving license.. "

    Now that it's a bit of plastic, should I attach the €50 note with a paper clip or wrap the Licence up in it.:giggle:
    And Geo,
    "One of the main benefits of the convention for motorists is the obligation on signatory countries torecognise the legality of vehicles from other signatory countries. The following requirements must be met when driving outside the country of registration."

    The problem with the argument put forward by you (above) is that nowhere in UK law does it state that an A Frame is legal. That will remain so until it is tested in a Court.
    In Spain, right from the off they say it is unlawful. How can you argue with that.

    You see, we have a totally diametrically opposite way of imposing Law in the UK to that of Spain.
     
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    Great "top tip" Jim, but the minimum fine here is 80 euro's.......... so 2 x €50 note might be better(y)
     
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    Having just read what Jim posted please do not try to attach ( I know he was kidding ) money to your licence when handing it over to the policeman or woman as you will be arrested on the spot. Having said that he is correct it is very handy to have the money in your wallet as locals have a few days to pay fines, however ANYONE visiting Spain will have to pay on the spot.
     
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    Inability to pay on the spot will entail being escorted by a member of the GC to the nearest ATM to withdraw the necessary funds.

    Bryan
     
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    What i don't understand is folk who complain about foreigners ignoring or breaking UK laws want to go to another country and break theirs!
     
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    The enforcement of driving rules in Spain
    In towns, the municipal police ( policía municipal) are responsible for traffic control, while on Spain’s highways the ‘civil guard’ ( guardia civil de tráfico) undertake the task, patrolling in cars, motorcycles and helicopters.

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    Motorcycle police usually patrol in pairs ( parejas), at least one of whom is usually a trained mechanic and the other trained in first-aid; they will stop and help anyone in trouble. Always follow the instructions of traffic police and be prepared to stop. Police in towns blow whistles and wave their arms about a lot – if you don’t know what’s going on, follow the example of other motorists!

    The police often set up check-points and stop motorists at random to ask for their identity and vehicle documents (and also to look for drugs or terrorists). You should always carry your passport or residence permit (residencia), driving licence (Spanish, if held), vehicle registration papers ( permiso de circulación) and insurance certificate, although copies are accepted. If a vehicle isn’t registered in your name, you also need a letter of authorisation from the owner.

    http://www.dgt.es for details) or at the local traffic department. Always ensure that you receive a receipt for it.

    If over 60 working days elapse between an offence and your receiving official notification of it, the fine is invalid. If, however, notification of a fine is sent to you in Spain while you’re abroad, your Spanish property can eventually be embargoed for non-payment. Your driving licence may also be suspended without your knowledge and your name listed in the provincial official bulletin ( boletín oficial).

    Fines
    Except on Spaniards and Spanish residents driving a Spanish-registered vehicle with a Spanish driving licence, on-the-spot fines ( multas) of up to €300 can be imposed for a range of traffic offences, including speeding, overtaking without indicating, travelling too close to the car in front, not being in possession of your car papers (although you’re now permitted to carry a photocopy of your papers in your car) and not wearing a seat belt. On-the-spot fines are routinely imposed on non-resident foreigners, whose vehicles can be impounded or immobilised if they’re unable to pay a fine, although the police may escort you to a bank or hotel ( This should not happen ) where you can obtain money or change foreign currency to euros. The police can also impound a foreign-registered car if they believe that it’s used permanently in Spain (you must prove that you live abroad, which may be difficult).

    Speeding fines ( multas) depend on the degree to which you exceed the speed limit; you can also lose your licence and up to six points. There’s a ‘leeway’ of up to 10 per cent above the speed limit to allow for speedometer and radar errors. It’s a very serious offence if you’re 30 per cent over the limit, e.g. 80kph in a town or 150kph on a dual carriageway. If you’re caught by an unmanned radar trap, you will be sent a photograph of your number plate, which is deemed to be irrefutable evidence of speeding.

    Police have stepped up their patrols in many areas and may impose fines for the slightest and most obscure infringements, such as not carrying your driving licence.

    If you’re fined, you receive a boletín de denuncia specifying the offence and the fine (check that it’s the same as the amount demanded). Unless required to pay on the spot, you can pay a fine at any post office using a post office money order ( giro postal), some banks (consult http://www.dgt.es for details) or at the local traffic department. Always ensure that you receive a receipt for it.

    If over 60 working days elapse between an offence and your receiving official notification of it, the fine is invalid. If, however, notification of a fine is sent to you in Spain while you’re abroad, your Spanish property can eventually be embargoed for non-payment. Your driving licence may also be suspended without your knowledge and your name listed in the provincial official bulletin ( boletín oficial).

    http://www.dgt.es and http://www.permisoporpuntos.es).
     
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    I stand corrected @Don Quixote ..... all the more reason to behave!!

    Bryan
     
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    Just update post above for all to read.
     
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