3 Points and £60 fine ?? (1 Viewer)

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Just say it was an emergency. You'd been in the pub all afternoon and were dying for a pee :)

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If it is a solid white line your side of the double white line or parking on a zebra crossing zig zag its an endorsement i.e. 3 points but seldom enforced. BUSBY.
Yes a friend of mine got an endorsement on his licence for parking on the zigzags. It was a long time ago, though
 
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From the govt website:https://www.gov.uk/parking-tickets/paying-a-ticket

You’ll only get penalty points on your licence for certain types of parking FPN, eg for leaving a vehicle in a dangerous position.

But of course you stopped (not parked) because a sheep was crossing, the vehicle misfired, a warning light came on or you heard a loud "bang" and thought you had a puncture - thus to proceed would have been dangerous

Engine on, wheels rolling, you weren't parked
 
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I don't understand the need for a sign anyway. It's illegal, it applies everywhere, and it's obviously dangerous to do so.

I think the signs are there because of the number of people that park at weekends in that location for the walks etc and presumably were ignoring the double white line parking rules.

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I don't understand the need for a sign anyway. It's illegal, it applies everywhere, and it's obviously dangerous to do so.
Quite agree.
You'd have failed your driving test if you had done that during it (and they'd have seem no sheep). Double white lines are there for good reason.
So now you know :)
(But surely it was obvious)
 
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Quite agree.
You'd have failed your driving test if you had done that during it (and they'd have seem no sheep). Double white lines are there for good reason.
So now you know :)
(But surely it was obvious)

Yes it was that is why I moved on immediately, at first it looked as if there was room for me at the end without touching the accompanying kerbside white line, but there wasn't .
 

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I think it's because of the double white lines, should not park where they are. But how do you define parking, I didn't switch off, apply handbrake or get out of car, I consider that stopping, not parking.
Will sweat on this one :)
Good excuse is that you stopped to READ THE NOTICE . and then complied.

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Not sure it is a good defence, but the sign is almost certainly out of date, I am sure the financial penalty is now higher, a technical excuse maybe

I got my first points for parking partly on zig zag lines, they were fairly new in the early 70's and I opted not to partly block the road by double parking, rarely penalised in those days, had about 3 ft of my car on zig zags and a copper happened along. at least he didn't see I had not taxed the car for long enough to pay the about same as the fine :LOL:
 
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:cautious: Yes, I have locked up people like you Larry, think they are above the law. I reckon you are guilty, and feel that your licence should be revoked, a heavy fine, and at least 10 points in your licence, and a re-test before being allowed back on the road. You are obviously a danger to other road users and to the Peak district.

Craig
 

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:cautious: Yes, I have locked up people like you Larry, think they are above the law. I reckon you are guilty, and feel that your licence should be revoked, a heavy fine, and at least 10 points in your licence, and a re-test before being allowed back on the road. You are obviously a danger to other road users and to the Peak district.

Craig

"Oi".......... You.......... stop avin a go at my Bro........ he cant` help it if he reads slow...

And remember Bro.......... Points make prizes... what do points make... :giggler:

Good game... good game... :groan:

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I think @DavidG58 is correct about fines being higher now. I know they increased it in Scotland from £60 to £100...I fell foul and had to cough up.
 
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:cautious: Yes, I have locked up people like you Larry, think they are above the law. I reckon you are guilty, and feel that your licence should be revoked, a heavy fine, and at least 10 points in your licence, and a re-test before being allowed back on the road. You are obviously a danger to other road users and to the Peak district.

Craig

You silly old sod, :p the laws are different where you are on puffin island :rofl::rofl:

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"Oi".......... You.......... stop avin a go at my Bro........ he cant` help it if he reads slow...

And remember Bro.......... Points make prizes... what do points make... :giggler:

Good game... good game... :groan:

You tell im Bro, he's still riding a BSA Bantam around that little ol island :RollEyes:
 
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I think @DavidG58 is correct about fines being higher now. I know they increased it in Scotland from £60 to £100...I fell foul and had to cough up.

I think any fine would have to be the same as on the notice but I have had a clean licence since 1961 so don't want any points now :(

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It looks like a single white line until you enlarge the Picture. But I suppose you can see why they done it. A long line of parked cars would cause a right issue!. Of course LOGICALLY they could just have made a Lay-by? whereby the plebs might enjoy the countryside, but that is asking too much of our "overworked" and "underpaid" Local Authority(s). and "planners".:D:whistle:

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Of course LOGICALLY they could just have made a Lay-by? whereby the plebs might enjoy the countryside,
Any idea what that would cost the council tax payers of Derbyshire Dales to buy part of the farmer's field and construct a lay-by in a field which is dropping away from the road?
 

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Any idea what that would cost the council tax payers of Derbyshire Dales to buy part of the farmer's field and construct a lay-by in a field which is dropping away from the road?

Not a clue, But the country generally Takes Far More off the motoring public in General than it EVER spends, So Of the Motoring revenue Budget I would think the cost would be minuscule?.

Pete

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Not a clue, But the country generally Takes Far More off the motoring public in General than it EVER spends, So Of the Motoring revenue Budget I would think the cost would be minuscule?.

Pete
Tax collection connected with motoring has been part of general taxation for years. That simply doesn't wash.
 

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Tax collection connected with motoring has been part of general taxation for years. That simply doesn't wash.

Does with me. Always has, Always will. The Govt has been stealing off the motorist for Decades and using the cash to boost General Taxation. What was described in recent times as "Stealth Taxation". So if you drive a vehicle you are Subsidising the rest of Society.

(""Dont steal""! your Government dislikes competition.) Was for many years the "bumper Sticker" on my R-V!!!!.:D

Pete
 

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Does with me. Always has, Always will. The Govt has been stealing off the motorist for Decades and using the cash to boost General Taxation. What was described in recent times as "Stealth Taxation". So if you drive a vehicle you are Subsidising the rest of Society.

(""Dont steal""! your Government dislikes competition.) Was for many years the "bumper Sticker" on my R-V!!!!.:D

Pete
Given that most people drive a vehicle these days (and many families have more than one) then there isn't much "rest of society" to subsidise is there?

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From the govt website:https://www.gov.uk/parking-tickets/paying-a-ticket



But of course you stopped (not parked) because a sheep was crossing, the vehicle misfired, a warning light came on or you heard a loud "bang" and thought you had a puncture - thus to proceed would have been dangerous

Engine on, wheels rolling, you weren't parked

None of which counts if you stop ,or even break down, on a "red route" with double red lines.
 

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even break down, on a "red route" with double red lines
The car might be towed and/or a PCN issued but any charge should be refunded. See this story by a Telegraph journalist.

Note the statement in the story - "We have people leaving breakdown notes all the time who just need a parking space," said the spokeswoman, not unreasonably, "so we have to be sure that they really have broken down. Red routes are just five per cent of London roads and yet they carry 35 per cent of traffic. We tow breakdowns because they are obstructive and we have to keep London moving safely."

Another case of innocent people falling victim to the actions of cheats.

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