2.2ltr Underpowered? (1 Viewer)

chrisinplymouth

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Hi

We are considering buying an approach autograph 750. My only concern is the engine size. It has the same engine as my Land Rover Freelander, which is great in a vehicle weighing 1850 kilos, but 3850 kilos?

Can anybody comment on the performance of this this engine in a motorhome of his weight.

Also is it 5 or 6 speed and what sort of mpg does it obtain.

Thanks in anticipation

Kind regards

Chris
 
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our van runs fully laden at 3.850 tonne (plus some :ROFLMAO::ROFLMAO:)
and we went all over morocco over high atlas complete with hair pins never had to drop below 2nd gear unless we were stuck behind trucks
its a ducato chassis with 2.2 multy jet 130 bhp

we can get 30 mpg (driven like a saint at 50 mph):Cool:
I can get it down to 25 mpg at 70 mph :Doh:
 

mariner

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I have a 3.5 tonne Pace with 2.2 Puma engine, in a Pug. 6 speed manual.

It pulls very well, even with a 1.1 tonne caravan on the back.


25mpg with van in tow and 32 mpg without.

PS

I reckon if I drove it, at no more than 50mph without the caravan on the back, I could get nearer 40 mpg.


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chrisinplymouth

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Thanks guys..... Says something for that engine. I rechecked the spec and found that it was 6 speed just like the landy. I think this might just be the one for us.

Chris
 

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We have recently got our Bailey Autograph 750 2.2ltr engine , only done the first 500 miles and getting 30mpg, loaded to 3610kg (I got it weighed).
It certainly does not appear to be underpowered and pulls beautifully, using the 6 speed gearbox.
We are really pleased with it so far.
By way of comparison we previously had a Chausson Flash 09, 2.4ltr base transit, with 6 speed gearbox, but the Bailey out performs the Chausson in all areas. Hope this helps.:Smile:
 

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We have an autoquest 155 and it runs well on 2.2. Only had it four weeks, but.covered about 800 miles so far in Lake District and on a run from Blackburn to Southampton. Very happy with it:Smile::Smile:

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TheBig1

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A modern 2.2 diesel producing 130bhp is a totally different animal than the old diesel engines which couldn't achieve this level of power. the problem seems to be that people remember their old vehicles and the need for a bigger engine for a heavier load. progress has brought technological improvements that unless you understand them are just confusing

so yes a modern 2.2 130 will power a 3.85t motorhome without a problem.
 

Allanm

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Your Landy has the Ford engine very similar to the one in the Peugeot Boxer. Same as mine. It pulls well, so no worries about lack of power. Our van is 3700kg max, usually weighs just under 3500 loaded and we get 28 mpg, and I'm no slouch. The van will top 80 very easily, and the engine is very quiet at that speed. We generally travel at 60 to 70, I guess if I kept it down to 50 -55 it would get around 30mpg.
 

Rapide561

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Some food for thought here.

Is there an option to upgrade to a 2.3?

Back in 2005 I bought a Compass motorhome, the standard engine was the 2.0, but I upgraded to 2.2. When I sold it, the buyer (private) said it was far better than a 2.0 and he bought it straight away.

My last Kontiki was on a 3.0 vice 2.3 as standard, same on this.

If you need to put your foot down - long motorway hills etc, I like something extra in reserve.

Just a thought

Russ

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chrisinplymouth

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We have recently got our Bailey Autograph 750 2.2ltr engine , only done the first 500 miles and getting 30mpg, loaded to 3610kg (I got it weighed).
It certainly does not appear to be underpowered and pulls beautifully, using the 6 speed gearbox.
We are really pleased with it so far.
By way of comparison we previously had a Chausson Flash 09, 2.4ltr base transit, with 6 speed gearbox, but the Bailey out performs the Chausson in all areas. Hope this helps.:Smile:

Many thanks Voyger....we are taking a year to look at different models. We hope to hire the nearest thing we can find to the Bailey (as we can't find a Bailey 750 to hire). Then hope to buy when we retire in 2015.

Once again thanks to all for your informative posts.

Chris
 

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