12 week old GSD and now maybe a MH, are we mad??

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  1. Encantador

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    Hi,

    Wife and I have looked on and off for about 6 months at the possibility of purchasing a 6 birth MH.

    Being on the `large` side (me that is), decided there would be more room in a 6 berth even though there will be only the two of us and our new addition a German Sheperd puppy most of the time. Also wanted something our grown up kids can maybe use.

    Having looked at quite a few dealers, think we prefer a rear lounge rather than a garage. Hoping to spend a maximum of 25k which we realise is not a lot in the MH world. Would probably want to keep bed over cab as main sleeping area to save the bed making and keep as much space as possible, also with full awning to expand living area. Ideaslly would prefer auto gearbox and cruise control but from what we have seen, going to struggle to find either, let alone both.

    Biggest problem we are finding is knowing what is and isn`t the right price. There are so many different makes/models/layouts, comparing prices is not easy, that`s before you factor in any accessories that have been fitted.

    From what I have read on here, buying private is probably where the best deals are. I assume that as long as the vehicle has had regular services of both habitation and engine/vehicle and has lowish mileage and long MOT we should be OK.

    IF we get through the process unscathed, the plan is to have many weekends away at home and maybe a 3-4 week jaunt across the channel in the summer.

    Brace yourselves, questions will surely follow. It seems like a very friendly place.

    Steve
     
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    Hi and welcome to the forum. I am new as well so cant give any advice. I would like to say though that I got loads of advice from here as we were looking to buy and I got an amazing deal from IH Motorhomes. I am pleased we bought from there because I have the confidence of knowing if anything goes wrong I can go back and they are very close to me so bear that in mind when you look to buy. ( advice given to me on here, no point having a warranty if it is hundreds of miles away). Best time to buy as well!
     
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    Welcome to Funsters. You may well be borderline but then I have no medical qualifications. As for the motorhome view as many layouts as possible as it does not necessarily follow that 6 berths will give you more space, indeed much of the space could be taken up by beds you dont really need. Also beware weight limits for the overcab beds, some are only suitable for use by children. There are certainly bargains to be had but you need to be careful, make sure everything works and watch out for damp. Good luck with the search and don't be rushed.
    Geoff.
     
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    Hi and welcome to Fun. We have a 6th birth MH an Autotrail Chieftain G . We also have a German Shepherd and a Yorkie. They love going out in the MH.
     

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    Hi and Welcome from us too.
    You also stated that possibly it was for the kids to use as well, dont forget that if any of them passed their driving test after 1997 they can only drive vehicles up to 3500kg limit unless they have taken the test for the plus element as well
     
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    Its a mad, mad, mad, mad world, why should you be left out?:Eeek:
    from your description of size required and full awning etc I assume you intend spending a lot of time in one place rather than touring. You are also looking for automatic gearbox and cruise control, lots of space etc. Seems to me you are describing and American RV and yes you can get small ones around 27ft or some even less and well within your budget, keep it under 7.5 tons to avoid license issues. however if you intend covering a lot of miles and moving every few days then maybe start looking at German vans for build quality and value for money, lots of layouts to choose from, almost all under 3.5 ton so no license issues at any age. German vans are all fully winterised which is something UK vans generally are not. Good luck
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    Hi Steve, It sounds as if you've given it lots of thought, well done. I've gone for the fixed bed and garage for loads of reasons, having made up my mind I would like a U shape or L shape lounge. So it is a moving feast.

    Don't assume that buying privately is going to naturally lead to the "Best Deal".

    There are many, not just reputable but excellent dealers out there and contrary to the thoughts that they "Just want your Cash" the more switched on dealers are more interested in a "customer for Life" than a quick buck, plus of course the peace of mind associated with policy grants and warranty issues.

    The problem we have is the dissatisfied customer tell 16 others on average and the satisfied customer tells 3 others. Ask around, I know several dealers I would happily deal with and one of them advertises on this page.

    Best of luck.....Griff
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    Hi and welcome as said above a six berth wont always mean bigger as our van sleeps 5 and is only 6m long but ideal as only 3 of us. Have a look at fixed bed in back and L shaped front lounge that way you will have loads of lounging space and no need to make up bed plus if your taking a big dog garage wouldnt be a bad idea as you will carry food and stuff for him.

    Have a look at the older hymers nothing but good reports about them

    Best of luck
     
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    Our favourite layout is a 6 berth van with a rear "u" lounge and front dinette.
    When we take family, grandkids etc it gives us enough workable room but when there are just 2 of us it's great to have the space. One benefit is that I can go sit up the rear of the van while the wifey can cook dinner etc in peace and lay it all out in the table :BigGrin:
    etc...

    I dont know if it's allowed but I am in the process of selling my van.
    www.apache700.freewebspace.com
    The ad may give you some ideas.

    MODS... If this is not allowed then please just remove it..... (PS,, I am gonna advertise it on Fun very soon. :Wink: )
     
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    Hi Steve,and welcome:thumb: the most important thing that you you should look at is Layout :BigGrin:It all depends on how you are going to use your van while away :Smile: If you are a park and ride type who goes to a place then uses feet,bikes,or a toad (small tow car)then size does not matter much.If you want to drive from place to place,park up in a town/village etc then a sub 20 footer is required.
    I posted this a few days back
    Hi go for comfort in your van. It is not a lot of use having a drop down bed if you cannot climb into it or perhaps get out in the middle of the night if you had too much wine LAYOUT / comfort is the single most thing you should be looking at We have tied all sorts of layouts from 2 / 4 berth to 6 to 4 again then 6 again and now in a 2 witch suits us great. Get out and look / try out as many bed layouts and don't be scared to put up climb in etc, etc, before buying Use one of the shows or a dealer to try this and get a good idea what is going to suit you then look for what you want.
    Also try hiring one for a weekend or mid week this will give a good idea as to what you want
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    The last bit may be your starting point.
    You need to see and smell anything you are thinking of buying,looking out for leaks/damp etc,and make sure every thing works :thumb: that includes beds :Eeek::Wink:It may well take an hour or two to do all this :Rofl1: but time taken looking at all the sheds ( beautiful van for sale) that people claim is like new,will not be wasted.As soon as you walk in some you know it is time to walk :BigGrin:Good luck in your search :thumb: and don't be afraid to ask :thumb:even the what may sound silly questions.:BigGrin:
    terry
     
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  12. Terry

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    We have a St Bernard in our motorhome

    We have a 64 kg St Bernard that come everywhere with us in our RV.

    If you scroll to the bottom of this post you will see in red a link to my RV .... what is an RV? recreational vehicle, of a yank. Mine is a smaller winnebago at 24'9" but fully loaded. cost me 3 years ago £28k .. lots of yanks about and you will get something suitable under the £25k mark. Just have a look, once you have seen in side one then go look at a eurobox and see the difference.


    OK they do less to the gallon, but it is a trade off... how many miles will you do in the life of ownership? not all RV's are big... mine is all up at 5.5 tons and I haul a trailer with a family car on the back and I am still in side the 7,500 kgs plus the mass with the trailer of 8250 kgs.

    Living with a large dog is not an issue.. you learn to work around the dog.. ezzie has her settee in the house and in the RV. She loves the travelling and we have taken her all over Europe. Even easier from next week when the DEFRA rules all change.

    You will find lots information on this site from those that have done it and got the tee shirt etc.,

    But you will find it a great experiance owning a motorhome, regardless if it is a yank or a eurobox.....even better with a dog... at the shows we attend throughout the year you will see many owners with there pets, including cats, ferrets, parrots, cave's etc., but lots and lots of dogs, in some units you may even see 3 or more.

    But look around check out what's for sale.. do have a look at a yank and as I say look at the link below... useful to give you some idea of what you get fro your money.. by the way it is a four bed unit and has the usual large fridge and freezer, 4 kw generator and air con and heating all round (ducted)... These days it has a 6" mains tv we run of the 1500 watt invertor.

    Bob:thumb:
     
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    I don't know where you live but I'd go and have a word with some dealers to see what they suggest. You wouldn't be committed in any way but you will get a firmer idea of what would suit you. We bought ours from Marquis at Preston in Lancs and they were very helpful. The van we finally bought was driven up from Plymouth for us to see. We have a 52 reg van with a u-shaped lounge which is massive. It takes 5 minutes to make up the bed and it is the best night's sleep I ever have. Our dog is small, but she sleeps up beside us all the time. The overcab bed is great for storage. :BigGrin: Hymer's are real workhorses but the older ones don't have ovens and often only 2 cooking rings which can be useful. :BigGrin:

    Ivy
     
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    Look at any american RV if your of the larger build as i am
    you will find the American build is stronger than the euro models
    plus you get a full size bed in a real bed room
    our RV is only 25 foot long and has every thing you have at home plus more
    we got our rv for just less then £25k
    more power more comfort and a better build
    i have had Mercedes ford german and English motohomes none of them are any where near the RV for price you get more :thumb:
     
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    You'd think there was room for a bigger TV in an RV :Rofl1:
     
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    I think Bob possibly forgot the 2 infront of the 6, most yanks tend to have a 26" tv in. Ours doesnt though we have put a 16" freeview/dvd/tv in that runs of either 12v or240 not everyone needs a stonking big tv
     
  18. Encantador

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    Thanks for the welcome and advice.

    Have looked at a few RV`s at a dealer, for the sort of money we want to spend we would be buying quite an old vehicle, my concern would be the cost of maintaining/repairing it, would obviously have a limited number of places able to deal with any problems.
    Also been told we would be limited as to where we could stay in one, not sure how true that is though.

    When you have not had one before, you can only go on how you think you will end up using it, how we do end up using it will probably be totally different. Such as the over cab bed idea, some seem to have a very small area suitable probably just for children and some we have seen have a bed that I think we could live with, but it could well be it turns into a storage area once we have tried it.

    The fixed beds we have seen have often got the corner of the bed missing which would not be suitable and seems a waste of space.

    Having read a lot about it taking maybe 2-3 attempts before getting the right layout, this takes me back to the biggest problem which I mentioned earlier about not understanding what these machines are worth. There are so many different specs for the same make/model not to mention accessories added, the worst possible nightmare would be to purchase, decide after a while to sell only to then find we overpaid and have thrown away a few thousand £££.:Sad:

    The thinking behind the awning is to do with the seats in most vehicles we have seen, they do not look that comfortable for relaxing, the backs are much too low or the ones with seat belts too upright. If this did turn out to be a problem, the options would be to use the awning with some decent patio type chairs maybe. Again, impossible to know till you spend some time in one. I know that in some the driver and/or passenger seats swivel, but not all and if we had to have that it would limit our choice even further.

    decisions, decisions.

    Thanks again.

    Steve
     
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    that's why it may be worth hiring one :thumb: you soon learn what you want.On second hand vans extras are desirable but don't really add to price,only easier to sell :thumb::BigGrin:
    terry
     
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    IF YOU WOULD LIKE TO TRY AN RV FOR A WEEKEND THEN LET ME KNOW

    I COULD LET YOU TRY OURS
    ITS ONLY 25 FOOT LONG WITH ALL THE COMFORTS OF HOME
    CALL ME IN pm IF YOUR INTERESTED

    WOULD BE PLEASED TO HELP :thumb::thumb:
     
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