£160,000 motorhome accident

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  1. Big bus man

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    Thought that might get your attention!
    A little story. last year my brother-in-law was driving towards the Dartford tunnel in his 40 ton lorry minding his own business when suddenly the smaller lorry in front sharply braked and swerved into another lane just avoiding tipping over, suddenly my brother-in-law was confronted with a stationary motorhome in the middle lane, choices; plunge into the back of it at 50mph probably killing the occupants or try and avoid it. He chose to avoid it and in doing so turned his lorry over and shedding his full load of timber making a mess of his arm in the process. 11am in the morning he was taken to hospital and later that day I set off to pick him up. Now 8pm and driving back round the M25 and the load was still being cleaned up, all this time the anti-clockwise carriageway had been closed and the stationary traffic went on for miles including many motorhomes, at least they could put the kettle on! Fortunately nobody was killed but the whole carnage was caused by a Motorhome. Just one of those things where nobody was to blame but the insurance bill for the entire operation came to £160,000. If you were one of those caught up in the jams that day all you would have heard is it was an overturned lorry, no mention of a motorhome being involved.
     
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  2. Figaro

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    The total bill if you could factor in everything would be many times that figure !
     
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  3. Big bus man

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    That was just the clean-up bill, the lorry and trailer were also a write-off, if you factor in the emergency services as well I hate to think, then there would be the millions lost from all the stationary motorists. I have no idea why the motorists were not turned back though.
     
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    Really? Nothing to do with two lorry drivers not looking ahead and/or not being able to stop in the distance they could see to be clear?
     
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    A bit like us following a van you can't always see passed them, you can allow space to make things safe but I guess when you think about it is was caused by the forward lorry not reacting fast enough and 40tons takes a lot of stopping.
     
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    Sorry, it wasn't ... the accident was actually caused by the 2nd lorry driver (the OP's BIL) who did not leave sufficient distance between his vehicle and the one in front in order to stop if the need arose ... not nice to think of it that way, but it is actually what happened. The fact that it was a motorhome that had stopped in the road doesn't have any bearing - it could have been a car that had stopped and the lorries would still have had to take evasive action due to their being too close.
     
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    Blimey.....
     
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    I disagree. A vehicle travelling at 50mph should maintain a safe stopping distance but this would normally be based on the slowing or stopping of a moving vehicle (which would take time) rather than a stationary object.
     
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    I'd love to see you try to argue that one in court! Maybe in 'real life' that's what happens but unfortunately the law isn't that 'flexible'.

    At the end of the day no-one was seriously injured and that's what we should be grateful for.
     
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    If we all left enough room to stop in an emergency then we probably don't have enough road in the whole country. What we should do and actually do are most times different. A 40 ton lorry travelling at 60mph takes a lot of stopping and swerve and you over.
     
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    In fairness .. that wasn't what was originally said. What was said. . Quite rightly .. is we should be able to stop in the distance we can see to be clear. Now this isn't a new theory .. and doesn't involve witchcraft .. it's plain common sense and has been around as a principle for a long time. It's something that perhaps some people .. often in huge trucks .. but not exclusively .. forget to adhere to. It's sadly not a problem until something happens. Luckily on this occasion everyone survived.
     
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    That philosophy would work well when a pedestrian walks out in front of you or the vehicle in front of you, something falls off the load in front of you.

    So the Motorhome is stopped in the middle of the road in the middle lane - there could be a pedestrian, motorcyclist or small car in front of it that you couldn't see or perhaps it had a mechanical failure and the inside lane was too busy to get over to the side of the road and he had no choice but to stop safely in the middle lane but the lorry drivers were not driving appropriately to stop in time themselves.
     
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    Again this is incorrect. If the lorry drivers were being alert with good forward vision they would have seen brake lights and vehicles moving around the hazard etc etc. Unfortunately only being able to see the doors of the truck in front is going to end in disaster when the front truck suddenly has issues.. for whatever reason. Most lorry drivers know this and drive accordingly and professionaly.
     
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    i think the thread was about what had happened not about who was to blame
     
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    You obviously missed the bit about the carnage being caused by a motorhome?
     
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    nope i read it all thx
     
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    Truth is wether it`s this particular incident or not, we all see that continuous line of Arctic trucks driving far too close to each other along the motorways, it really is mind boggling just how close they are, certainly not enough for a car to get between them, a bloody pain when you are approaching the Junction you want to exit on.

    Personally I would like to see it be Law that heavy goods can only use the inside lane of a motorway with a minimum speed limit on all motorways as well as a maximum, which according to our Laws isn`t 70 mph but actually 70 mph + 10% +2 mph.
    Which of course adds another 7 mph to a heavy goods top speed, (if it isn`t governed of course).
     
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    Anyone who's ever driven a lorry will know its impossible to leave a good distance between you & the one in front, Because you will get 3 or 4 dicks in cars slot in there, which means you just got to keep dropping back & back. A minimum speed limit for cars (60) would be good to stop this
     
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    You are of course correct but only to a point. If the lorry driver had left say another 30 meters, he wouldn't have had to swerve quite so violently. It wouldn't matter if a car slotted in the gap because he could see over it. The point is being so close to a large vehicle in front so that all you can see is his rear doors is asking for trouble. Leave enough gap so that you can either stop or safely take avoiding action is sensible. Being so close that you have no view and no chance of taking avoiding action is not.

    That said, I am just relieved that no one was seriously injured or killed in this incident.
     
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    Totally agree. 'nuff said
     
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