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OP
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you also say the injectors are fine but how would the dealer know? to check injectors they have to be removed and sent to a specialist and cannot be checked any other way,ok they can be checked that they are triggering but the spray pressure/ pattern can only be done by removing.

I was repeating what I had been told. Given the history of lying, I'm not sure if they have been checked or not now.
 

chrisgreen

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I was repeating what I had been told. Given the history of lying, I'm not sure if they have been checked or not now.
if the van runs? ask your dealer to do a fuel rail pressure test,this is done using IDS (integrated diagnostic software) through the OBD port,if the PVR has blown it will show up with this test,and ask for a print out,from memory it should show a rail pressure of 200 bar.
 

TheBig1

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sounds very much like a fueling issue from the description, but the variation in symptoms could also be a wiring issue on the injector loom

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chrisgreen

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sounds very much like a fueling issue from the description, but the variation in symptoms could also be a wiring issue on the injector loom
all checkable on IDS,the full diagnostic check with IDS will show any wiring faults if the guy using it knows how to interpret the information in front of him,not something i would rely on a ford techie doing.
 
OP
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Just been given this information; any advice appreciated.

Cylinder One - 0 Bar

Cylinder Two - 16 Bar

Cylinder Three - 15.7 Bar

Cylinder Four - 16 Bar


Specifications are 15 .5 Bar and above


As you can see there is no compression on Cylinder One and Low on Cylinder Three.


Therefore this would suggest either a cracked Piston or Hole in Piston.
 

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If it was me I would seriously consider getting it out of there to an independent garage that isn't a parts changer and can actually fix stuff!

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All the engines I have seen with cracked pistons usually have external signs like engine oil being blown out of the breathers and extremely high crank case pressure . It could be valve problems , but any self respecting mechanic should not find it hard to find the problem . Dual mass flywheels breaking up can cause timing problems as it affects the crankshaft position sensor but not zero compression on one cylinder Mike
 
OP
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If it was me I would seriously consider getting it out of there to an independent garage that isn't a parts changer and can actually fix stuff![/
All the engines I have seen with cracked pistons usually have external signs like engine oil being blown out of the breathers and extremely high crank case pressure . It could be valve problems , but any self respecting mechanic should not find it hard to find the problem . Dual mass flywheels breaking up can cause timing problems as it affects the crankshaft position sensor but not zero compression on one cylinder Mike

The dual mass flywheel was never replaced. The garage lied to me when they said they had replaced the seized on
 
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Just been given this information; any advice appreciated.

Cylinder One - 0 Bar

Cylinder Two - 16 Bar

Cylinder Three - 15.7 Bar

Cylinder Four - 16 Bar


Specifications are 15 .5 Bar and above


As you can see there is no compression on Cylinder One and Low on Cylinder Three.


Therefore this would suggest either a cracked Piston or Hole in Piston.
Cylinder 3 is well within limits & I suspect 2 & 4 weren't identical - it's rare to find identical pressures. You're problem is number 1. Zero compression suggests a valve failure. A piston damaged sufficiently to read zero would cause exhaust oil & likely oil blown from the engine breather. After this test ignore all other symptoms and ask a garage you trust to confirm the compression test & assuming they come up with the same problem with cylinder 1 the next logical step is to remove the cylinder head to find the reason for the failure.

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Abacist

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If I hadn't read the above I'd struggle to believe anyone could be capable of such lies. What have the lies achieved other than get the customer's back up even more!

What a disgrace on Ford and its dealerships but they probably don't care as its only one customer!
 

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By the way do you know if it was an ex-hire van when you bought it as the mileage seems quite high for its age and I know that they do that over there though it should be disclosed.
 

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@hilldweller just posted this on another thread which might help you with the warranty!

And don't forget EU law. Anything sold has to have a lifetime commensurate with the product. A ball point pen maybe a month but TVs Cars etc should give good service for years. They can't just say "Sorry it's 12 months and a day, sod off".

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Jul 5, 2013
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The problem is he bought it in Germany, and he suggests it is direct from Hymer. At the end of the day his contract with them as are all of the legal remedies. Yes they are supposed to be Europe wide in theory, but in practice trying to pursue a legal claim against a German based dealer will be fraught with difficulty.

I suggest he gets on to whoever sold it to him. If it is Hymer themselves they may be willing to help.
 
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Just been given this information; any advice appreciated.

Cylinder One - 0 Bar

Cylinder Two - 16 Bar

Cylinder Three - 15.7 Bar

Cylinder Four - 16 Bar


Specifications are 15 .5 Bar and above


As you can see there is no compression on Cylinder One and Low on Cylinder Three.


Therefore this would suggest either a cracked Piston or Hole in Piston.

Diagnosis

A good starting point provided that the compression test is correct would be to remove number one injector and with the piston at the top pressurise the cylinder with an air line through the injector hole, then listen for the leak.
Any air escape past either inlet or exhaust valves would be heard at the air filter or exhaust, a leak via the piston would be heard with the oil filler cap removed. I hope you get this correctly diagnosed soon before anyone starts any unnecessary dismantling !
 

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