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thanks Geo I am fitting some in my van I will be fitting through the floor and bolting to the chases I that a bit over over engineering :thumb:Yes is the short answer
The problems you will face are actually finding someone to do it, although its not technically difficult, a good few folk think you need chassis anchors etc and are trying to restrain a Sherman Tank. this is not so, you would be suprised at just how littleis used in the way of seat belt mounts in many vehicles
Also complying with current MoT PASS standards re the type of belt reqd for the seat type and possition you have in mind
Notice I said "PASS" standards, as there are no construction standards to work to. and only minimal testing ie a quick pull on the belt is all that is reqd. is the belt is actually capable of restraining a person? is a question for the constructor not the tester
Geo
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Inspection manual for Class 4 go to contents section 5 Seat belts, you will have trouble understanding it for sure
thanks Geo I am fitting some in my van I will be fitting through the floor and bolting to the chases I that a bit over over engineering :thumb:
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Yes is the short answer
The problems you will face are actually finding someone to do it, although its not technically difficult, a good few folk think you need chassis anchors etc and are trying to restrain a Sherman Tank. this is not so, you would be suprised at just how littleis used in the way of seat belt mounts in many vehicles
Also complying with current MoT PASS standards re the type of belt reqd for the seat type and possition you have in mind
Notice I said "PASS" standards, as there are no construction standards to work to. and only minimal testing ie a quick pull on the belt is all that is reqd. is the belt is actually capable of restraining a person? is a question for the constructor not the tester
Geo
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Inspection manual for Class 4 go to contents section 5 Seat belts, you will have trouble understanding it for sure
Geo I'm not disputing either the MOT requirements nor the motorsport application. what I find worrying is the fact that people would rely on a fixing into a plywood floor and expect a lightweight plywood seat not to disintegrate in a collision. the downwards forces applied by an average person in a collision are massive. in motorsport you have a specially designed bucket seat. in a car the frame is made of steel and bolted to the steel floor
the minimum you see fitted by a manufacturer are a box section reinforcing frame to support the passenger and mounts through the floor and into a steel cross member on the chassis. dont forget, if you fit a safety device, you must consider the implications if its used and relied on in an accident. in effect you can expect to be legally liable if somebody gets injured whilst relying on a home made seatbelt arrangement. the vehicle insurer will never pay out if it wasnt designed and fitted by an engineer who has calculated strengths and loading requirements
you have a legal obligation to notify your insurers if you structurally alter your vehicle by adding seat belted travelling seats. they have the right to refuse to insure or void insurance if not notified and agreed
just a small insight into the real world implications
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Yes is the short answer
The problems you will face are actually finding someone to do it, although its not technically difficult, [HI]a good few folk think you need chassis anchors etc and are trying to restrain a Sherman Tank. this is not so, you would be suprised at just how littleis used in the way of seat belt mounts in many vehicles[/HI]
Also complying with current MoT PASS standards re the type of belt reqd for the seat type and possition you have in mind
Notice I said "PASS" standards, as there are no construction standards to work to. and only minimal testing ie a quick pull on the belt is all that is reqd. is the belt is actually capable of restraining a person? is a question for the constructor not the tester
Geo
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Inspection manual for Class 4 go to contents section 5 Seat belts, you will have trouble understanding it for sure
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Hi, I don't know if this will help - our MoHo has seatbelts on the side facing seats in the U shaped lounge (as well as the front lounge). Looking through the paperwork they were specified at build. It consists of sub-frames (AlKo) fitted to/through the floor panels and onto the main body sub-frame.
The sub-frames have approval plates on them (not too sure if that just means the sub-frames) but the paperwork states the mountings are also 'approved'.
Regards,
Trikeman.
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Please, as a matter of urgency REMOVE the side facing seat belts so that NO ONE is tempted to use them! They can cause a hell of a lot of injuries if someone is using them in an accident!
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they can cause serious injury's but surly die it the passenger was to retile around inside the van or even ejected out on to the road through the wind screen killing the driver or front seat passenger on the wayPlease, as a matter of urgency REMOVE the side facing seat belts so that NO ONE is tempted to use them! They can cause a hell of a lot of injuries if someone is using them in an accident!
don't tink seat belt would help thereseatbelts !!!.....woudn't want to be the passenger
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they can cause serious injury's but surly die it the passenger was to retile around inside the van or even ejected out on to the road through the wind screen killing the driver or front seat passenger on the way
then being flattened by a grate big artick passing in the other direction
even at low speed you stand to die or very serious injury's if you fly forward even two feat if not restrained any restraint is beater than no restraint keep them in till you find a beater alternative
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every one has difrent vews on this but I still say till he has a nother alternative beater one seriously injured than two dead that watt would happen if there was no seat belt worn and the passenger hit the front seat passenger both of then dieNot in this case bill ... using a side facing seatbelt can cause serious injuries and that is why there is no legal requirement to fit seatbelts to these type of seats. If you are thrown towards the front of a vehicle whilst in a sideways seating position with a seatbelt on it can cause serious internal and spinal injuries as we are not meant to bend that way - a seatbelt would hold the bottom of your trunk in place and allow the rest of you to bend to the side, whereas without a seatbelt your whole trunk would 'lay' to the side, still not ideal but certainly no where as bad as being 'bent' in a way you are not meant to be.
http://www.cssginfo.co.uk/seat-belts
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were all missing an important second option here....gaffa tape
just get the wife, or kids to sit in the seat and use a whole roll of gaffa tape to stick them in place. good stuff gaffa tape
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Yes is the short answer
The problems you will face are actually finding someone to do it, although its not technically difficult, a good few folk think you need chassis anchors etc and are trying to restrain a Sherman Tank. this is not so, you would be suprised at just how littleis used in the way of seat belt mounts in many vehicle[/COLOR]s
Also complying with current MoT PASS standards re the type of belt reqd for the seat type and possition you have in mind
Notice I said "PASS" standards, as there are no construction standards to work to. and only minimal testing ie a quick pull on the belt is all that is reqd. is the belt is actually capable of restraining a person? is a question for the constructor not the tester
Geo
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Inspection manual for Class 4 go to contents section 5 Seat belts, you will have trouble understanding it for sure
I have thanked those posters where I think they have given good advice, we as a business would NOT fit seatbelts unless the vehicle was aproved by the makers.
1. If there was an accident we could be sued for millions and our public liability insurance would not cover us.
2. The owners insurance would be null and void if they had not been notified of the changes to the vehicles specification
Peter
Ooooo...eeeerrrrrr ... present for you below as you seem to have spat yours out!Cant anyone here answer a simple question, I did and i stick by every word, and for the most you have all put your own totally irrelevent spin on it
The short answer still remains Yes you can it really is possible ther are numourous companies the length and breadth of the UK making a living from doing it
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Ooooo...eeeerrrrrr ... present for you below as you seem to have spat yours out!
You'll have to pardon us 'mere mortals' for making irrelevant comments (in your eyes) but in my ever so humble opinion they are not irrelevant to the overall subject of retrofitting seatbelts. I would also like to proffer that this is a forum, not a technical helpdesk, so if we think additional information will be helpful to the OP, in case he hasn't considered the 'whole picture', then it is offered to help and assist in his decision making process of whether it not only CAN be done but also where it is WISE to do so. :thumb:
As for there being numerous companies that can do this - please do enlighten us!