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I know Ive said it before BUT we have finaly scrimped, saved and stolen::bigsmile: enough money to start seriously looking to buy and to that end we are going to have a look at this Link Removed

What do you guys think? is the engine man enough etc anyone got one?

Tim:thumb:
 

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Hi I dont have one or know much about them all i would say is remember as its a 4 berth if you want to take anyone away with you they will have to travel on the side facing seats i know this is allowed but not recommended especially for children even with seatbelts. Just something for you to think about.

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we had several Auto Trails and have been very satisfied with them especial the 840D.

Good luck

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Hi Tim a little under powered on the hills but they have a gearbox :ROFLMAO: and you are not in a race car so enjoy :thumb:
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That looks ok make sure you give it a good going over before handing any cash over
 

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certainly well spec's.. Would say the price is pretty well bang on the money too.. He MIGHT move a little but at the posted price he is not being overly greedy

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Looks nice Van, go one buy it now and you will never look back as the song says " tomorrow may never come" so go on go on go on ! get it bought and start enjoying your motorhome
 
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It says on the spec that it has 2 slide outs ?
I couldnt see them on the pics, is it just me ?
Looks in good condition though. You never know it might be the 1 for you::bigsmile:
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Hi,

It looks a good deal to me, the price is excellent, and it's well specified. The 'slide out' issue is a non issue. It has none, so it must be an error.

The engine is well up to the job. I have a Hobby 4 berth which is heavier, and it performs very well with the same 2300cc engine (as powefull as the older 2.5 and 2.8's)- not a sports car, certainly, but it will easily cope with long hills in top gra, and cruise all day at 70 - 80 mph on the continent.

I've just returned from 6 weeks, 2,500 miles in France and it looks to have done around 32mpg (no Autoroutses, all on National roads). It used no oil and water, and it's now done 28k miles, but barely run in.

These Autotrails are quality vehicles, and are well regarded in the trade and by owners. I had a 1976 Apache (Peugeot 504 cab) and it did 80,000 before I sold it!!

Best wishes and good luck,

Doug

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Thanks Guys
Only two of us so seat belts not a problem:Smile:, jaws was wondering if it was just a little to cheap?:Cool:, thanks doug so the 2.3 is ok and I guess I can always get it remapped as well:RollEyes:.

We are also planning to see these two;
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Any thoughts anyone???:thumb:
 

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No, do not think it is too cheap.. Reckon it is bang on the money to be honest
Seller is being realistic and rather than hang out for a maybe tomorrow sale, is going for the 'flog it today and maybe lose a couple of bob' option

I know this option well cos it is usually what I do ... Cannot be bothered with tyre kickers so pitch a price to sell and gather the rewards so I can move on and get the next toy !
 

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That van that has not reached its reserve yet.. very clever use of photography that..
I know exaclty what he has done cos I have done the same some time ago !

Nothing hidden just a good choice of lens focal length :winky:

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That van that has not reached its reserve yet.. very clever use of photography that..
I know exaclty what he has done cos I have done the same some time ago !

Nothing hidden just a good choice of lens focal length :winky:

They just look like standard photos to me, Jaws. What is it that you think is 'very clever'? :wub:

But I have a funny feeling about this ad - apart from the 'slide outs' there are other anomalies that seem to point to the seller not knowing much about his own van. Personally I think the price is too cheap, too - I think it smacks of a 'come on'. I think it is a tad too good to be true. If it IS kosher then the OP should lose no time and snap it up - quick, before they miss it. Never mind at looking at others .... but be careful - there's a minefield out there ...
 
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No, do not think it is too cheap.. Reckon it is bang on the money to be honest
Seller is being realistic and rather than hang out for a maybe tomorrow sale, is going for the 'flog it today and maybe lose a couple of bob' option

I know this option well cos it is usually what I do ... Cannot be bothered with tyre kickers so pitch a price to sell and gather the rewards so I can move on and get the next toy !


Hi Jaws
Ok yes I understand, I have been in touch in with the sellers by email and everything seems ok, but they do seem to be a little nieve, for instance when I asked if the cambelt had been done they said they didn't think it needed to be done until 60k, more than a little worrying:Doh:

By the way what is the time limit on the 2.3 cambelt??:Smile:
 
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They just look like standard photos to me, Jaws. What is it that you think is 'very clever'? :wub:

Hi Squire

I think Jaws is talking about the Swift:thumb:

They do seem rather nieve but ok I think!:Blush: they have reduced it from ÂŁ21,800 apparently, Full history but the cambelt worrys me a little:Sad:

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They just look like standard photos to me, Jaws. What is it that you think is 'very clever'? :wub:

Hi Squire

I think Jaws is talking about the Swift:thumb:

They do seem rather nieve but ok I think!:Blush: they have reduced it from ÂŁ21,800 apparently, Full history but the cambelt worrys me a little:Sad:

Oh - the Swift .. yes, I see it now - Jaws' reference to the reserve not being met keys it into his post. But I still don't see why the photos are 'clever'. To me they just look as if they've been taken by a standard lens without much 'wide angle'.

But anyway, the Autotrail is much the better bet in my opinion. A much nicer van all round - better quality and better layout. The cam belt change is about due anytime, I think - but nothing to worry about provided you'll have enough 'dosh' to have it done in the next few months if you can't get the seller to have it done first. I knew of one that 'went' at 7 years but only 14,000 miles so age IS an issue - paradoxically more so on low mileage engines that have long 'standing' intervals - as most motorhomes have !

Good luck on your quest ...
 

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Funny this.. was at the Pug dealer today to get a price on having a cam belt fitted on my own van.. Coming up to 5 years...

He wanted to know why I wanted it changing !

In the book, all pugs from 2000 on have a cam belt regime of 70,000 miles or 10 years for normal use, for delivery van use with multi stop starts 35000 and 7 years

So I shall not be worrying about mine for a fair while then, and amazingly the chap who said 60k miles was pretty darned close !
 
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But anyway, the Autotrail is much the better bet in my opinion. A much nicer van all round - better quality and better layout. The cam belt change is about due anytime, I think - but nothing to worry about provided you'll have enough 'dosh' to have it done in the next few months if you can't get the seller to have it done first. I knew of one that 'went' at 7 years but only 14,000 miles so age IS an issue - paradoxically more so on low mileage engines that have long 'standing' intervals - as most motorhomes have !

Good luck on your quest ...


Thanks for that, yes I am leaning towards the autotrail as well, as for the cambelt I just have this nightmare going through my head of it popping on the way home after just handing over 20K:Eeek:

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Funny this.. was at the Pug dealer today to get a price on having a cam belt fitted on my own van.. Coming up to 5 years...

He wanted to know why I wanted it changing !

In the book, all pugs from 2000 on have a cam belt regime of 70,000 miles or 10 years for normal use, for delivery van use with multi stop starts 35000 and 7 years

So I shall not be worrying about mine for a fair while then, and amazingly the chap who said 60k miles was pretty darned close !



Ah well not so much of a worry then:thumb:
 

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Funny this.. was at the Pug dealer today to get a price on having a cam belt fitted on my own van.. Coming up to 5 years...

He wanted to know why I wanted it changing !

In the book, all pugs from 2000 on have a cam belt regime of 70,000 miles or 10 years for normal use, for delivery van use with multi stop starts 35000 and 7 years

So I shall not be worrying about mine for a fair while then, and amazingly the chap who said 60k miles was pretty darned close !


Fiat Ducatos have more frequent cam belt change intervals than do Peugeot Boxers. The Autotrail is on a Fiat so this one is due more or less straight away.
 

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It says on the spec that it has 2 slide outs ?
I couldnt see them on the pics, is it just me ?
Looks in good condition though. You never know it might be the 1 for you::bigsmile:
Good luck

i think they may be confusing the couch base 'slide out' sections, for making a large double bed, for slides in the true sense :Doh:

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Fiat Ducatos have more frequent cam belt change intervals than do Peugeot Boxers. The Autotrail is on a Fiat so this one is due more or less straight away.

So when did Fiat stop using the boxer engine then ?
 

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So when did Fiat stop using the boxer engine then ?


I can't answer your question - I've no idea - I don’t even know if they ever did use exactly the same engine, although until I found out about the different cam belt regime I thought they did. I know that in the 'old' days they were different - one was direct injection and the other indirect. There must be some reason it's a different regime .... perhaps different ancillaries .... ? Or maybe it's nothing to do with the engine, just differing company policy ... ?
 

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No idea.. I do know that the cam belt kitr number is the same for both the Fiat and Pug models though :winky:

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No idea.. I do know that the cam belt kitr number is the same for both the Fiat and Pug models though :winky:


Well if that's right, Jaws, it does seem to point to differing company policy.
But knowing what I do, I wouldn't like to leave it ten years between changes, especially now that you tell me that the Peugeot part number is the same as that for Fiat. I've known two Fiat 2.8 JTD's that have suffered cam belt failures (and expensive engine repairs) at 14,000 miles and 27,000 miles respectively, both outside the Fiat time regime but inside that for a Peugeot. If they had been Peugeots they would have been within warranty, provided the service intervals had been adhered to, but as they were Fiats .......... !
 

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We do ours every 2 years or 20k. Purely because the cost of doing so far outweighs the cost of repair...especially if a customer would have their holiday ruined.

This month, the braking system was replaced - pads, discs, pipes - need doing? Not really, one pipe was starting to show signs of corrsosion, so the whole lot was replaced.

And they say hire vehicles are mis-treated!! Not ours!:thumb:
 
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Hey Guys thanks for the info but just had a sudden thought are any of these vans blighted by the reversing gearbox problem????????????:Eeek:

Tim

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