Interesting - why German MHs don't have proper ovens. (1 Viewer)

[bladerunner]

The VERY nice Bavarian on the Morelo stand I was chatting to (I know, but it is very nice just a few £100k too much) was surprised we Brits could get decent ovens in our MH.
He said it is illegal in Germany as the vent would be near the window, which one would often open. Thereby allowing noxious gases to re-enter and do bad things. *not another gassing thread.


P.s. They really are nice motorhomes, especially the one with the slide out. Liked the Concorde carver with the rear lounge also.
Others didn't impress and I'm glad my FRANKIA is a couple of years old as the new interior is rather square and "cheaper" IMHO.

 

[Bart]

I wondered why it was hard to find a MH with an over in it when we were looking at buying in Germany then importing..
At the time i thought it was because the weather was always that good and the just used the grill all the time

 

[Kevan]

Move the window?

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[Gromett]

put a switch on the window that prevents the oven operating when it is open. It's what Truma does.

 

[ceejayt]

Sounds like salesman gobbledegook to me

 

[moulin 87]

Our vent for the water heater is near a window, if I open the window the boiler switches off...Simples

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[funflair]

Is the gas oven vented?

Certainly isn't at home.

Martin

 

[Robert Clark]

Is the gas oven vented?

Certainly isn't at home.

Martin

Our gas Tec Tower gas oven is vented through the roof.

 

[RidersofRohan]

Honestly.
Whats all these dangerous gases doing to your food before the exit out of the vent?
What vent anyway?
There isn't one, and what about the hob? Its burning the same gas as the oven but straight out into your kitchen area, just like at home!!!

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[Forestboy]

My German van has an oven which we use all the time it isn't vented hasn't exploded or killed us yet.
Salesman bullshit if you ask me and how come Travelworld have brand new German vans on show with ovens fitted. We looked at a 2016 Hymer B544 Premium line a few months ago and it had an oven fitted.

 

[bobandjanie]

Our Euramobil had a proper oven, very rarely used it. Bob

 

[Tykatem]

There is no requirement for a seperate vent, gas ovens vent into the room, as most of the C02 is burned off by the flames inside the oven. If need be, you can always open a window to vent.

Pete

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[maz]

Your gas oven at home doesn't have an external vent. Why do you need one on a van oven? Our TecTower oven vents into the van - not a problem.

 

[vwalan]

i alway wonder about design when the fridge is on the door side . possibly it would be in the sun all day.
nut then many have the fridge vent covered by the door when its open .
i always think fridge away from door on other side as usually park with door in the sun if i can.

 

[Geo]

There is no requirement for a seperate vent, gas ovens vent into the room, as most of the C02 is burned off by the flames inside the oven. If need be, you can always open a window to vent.

Pete

Cant do that you'l let the fumes in

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[Wildbill]

As long as the oven burns clean nice blue flame don't se a problem
Bilk

 

[magicsurfbus]

On the other hand one can imagine the effect on German MH exports if one of our more rabid tabloids got hold of a "Brits gassed in German motorhome" story.

Our Italian made MH has a water heater cut off if the main (top hinged) window is open above the vent.

 

[mitzimad]

Its possible the ovens in mh need vents due to the size of the space its in
you cant have a cooker in rooms below a certain size in a house
Some one mentioned the truma over priced window switch. W hich is the only reason trumas dont allow flues below windows

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[gus-lopez]

Our vent for the water heater is near a window, if I open the window the boiler switches off...Simples

I suggested on your other thread that you fit one to the rooflight that traps the sat. dish.

 

[Wildbill]

As long as the oven burns clean nice blue flame don't se a problem
Bilk

A carbon monoxide detector would not go a miss neither
Bill

 

[moulin 87]

I suggested on your other thread that you fit one to the rooflight that traps the sat. dish.

Thanks...I've read it and will put it in motion...

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[GJH]

Sounds like salesman gobbledegook to me

I agree. In line with what others have commented, our Burstner has an oven. We've never used it but it does work because it is checked during each hab service.

 

[bladerunner]

Just reporting what he said to me. Seemed a nice sensible Bavarian.
My frankia has a full 2 part oven and has cooked a full Christmas meal when the aga decided to take Christmas off.

 

[bladerunner]

We didn't buy the hymer equivalent because of its lack of decent oven. Can't be bothered with a small tech tower. We love cooking and want the van to be a home from home all year round.

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[stewartwebr]

I have owned 5 German motorhomes and all 5 had ovens. 4 out of the 5 were vented ovens (Dometic Tech Towers) and the odd one out was not. The unvented Thetford was nothing short of a complete nightmare. I owned the van for 2.5 years and it was repaired about 6 times, extra cooling fans were fitted at the rear (using valuable power) in an attempt to move the escaping heat away from the thermocouples, none of it ever worked for long and the van was sold with the oven working but the grill not working correctly. I gave up in the end. Thetford offered very little support and supplying dealer was of very little assistance. Hence the reason the new van has no Thetford products, although the Thetford oven was a clear design concept as it was much bigger oven and a clever door which slid inside the oven when you opened it. Just a shame it never actually got hot which I would have though was quite fundamental in an oven

 

[ymfb]

We wouldn't buy a van without an oven, we managed without a microwave but now we have one it also gets used.

 

[peterc10]

The Bavarian is talking out of an orifice other than his mouth. Our German van has a factory fitted TEC tower and the oven vents safely through the roof. In our previous van we had a factory fitted freestanding oven that had no vent and it still worked fine.

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[Steve N Tracy]

On our 2017 Dethleffs the Truma vent is under bedroom window German standard fit with no safety switch on the window like we had on our Benimar, the oven non standard German fit vent is under the kitchen window, and their was no CO detector fitted. Like most German things the quality is mostly in the bulls***t.

 

[eddie]

The VERY nice Bavarian on the Morelo stand I was chatting to (I know, but it is very nice just a few £100k too much) was surprised we Brits could get decent ovens in our MH.
He said it is illegal in Germany as the vent would be near the window, which one would often open. Thereby allowing noxious gases to re-enter and do bad things. IMHO.

That is why they don't have gas fridges and gas water heaters and gas heating I expect lol

 

[Lenny HB]

Your gas oven at home doesn't have an external vent. Why do you need one on a van oven? Our TecTower oven vents into the van - not a problem.

No it doesn't all TecTowers have a roof vent for the oven.

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