Chemical attack robbery (5 Viewers)

[motorhome guy]

Hi, i know how these threads go but anyone here who has been robbed and some sedation chemical used then get in touch with me as I'm trying to piece together what happened on my trip back from the south of france. Here's my story, feel free to discredit it, i know most here are skeptical anyways but in order to advance any understanding of these attacks i feel this is important to contact any who have experienced it.

I never usually use an aires but this one time I did, i thought i'd get half an hour nap and be on the road again. about an hour later i was disturbed from my sleep and noticed two things, firstly there was a sound of rain but not the normal heavy rain drops it was very light rain. i flipped back the curtain to look out but there was no rain. i thought nothing and lay down again. next i noticed a flash light coming in at the window, i'd left the curtain slightly open, my thoughts were disoriented at this time and i was having problems moving. i fell unconscious again. next both my partner and i were both disturbed by someone in the vehicle down at the cab end, again i problems moving but managed to sit up in an exceptionally dazed state, unable to vocalise anything, move or lift my arms, the next thing i just collapsed back down like a dead weight and couldn't help but fall unconscious again.

we awoke a full 12hrs later feeling disoriented and with throbbing heads and very pale skin. it took us a while to realise we'd been robbed as we started to remember what had happened in the night. the door had been left open slightly by the thief and when we finally got round to calling police we found they were already there with other motor homes having being attacked aswell.

i don't know what chemical agent was used whether they pumped gas in or if they broke in and chloroformed us, either way it took about 3 days for both our headaches to stop (i don't ever get headaches) and a full week before the toxins left the body, both our stools turned a distinct grey colour for an entire week, which hasn't ever happened before.

I have since put deadlocks on every door and alarmed each door and put motion activated lighting and cameras in the vehicle and i would urge everyone else to do the same. maybe the cameras are overkill but I figure these are specialist gangs of criminals and the sooner evidence is obtained the better.

I would love to know what symptoms other forum members exhibited, PM me if you don't want them public, i realise how traumatic it maybe to retell your account in public and have it disbelieved or put down to being drunk or something, it is my thoughts they maybe using a range of methods and are highly skilled at rendering people unconscious.

thankyou so much and i know people on these forums don't want to be alarmed by these things but i feel it's necessary to inform potential travellers so as they can know what to look out for and can protect themselves.

I'd like to thank the moderator for allowing this post to go through as ultimately i don't want to scare anyone, i just need to make more sense of what happened and having read previous posts i know others have had similar experiences.

 

[Chris]

It happened to me.

I woke feeling groggy and had my mobile and £2000 cash taken while we slept.

 

[motorhome guy]

if you can remember, would you characterise it as a headache, or body lethargy or both? also if you can remember where in your head did you feel the effects, ie behind the eyes or at the back of the head etc? and did you notice any other effects like stool discolouration or skin turning pale, many thanks for your reply

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[Jim]

Hi, sorry you were robbed, being present at the time makes it all the more traumatic and you will take a few days to get over it. Rest assured, whatever happened to you did not involve you being gassed. That does not happen, it most certainly is a myth.

 

[Chris]

if you can remember, would you characterise it as a headache, or body lethargy or both? also if you can remember where in your head did you feel the effects, ie behind the eyes or at the back of the head etc? and did you notice any other effects like stool discolouration or skin turning pale, many thanks for your reply

It just sort of felt like a hangover to me.

 

[motorhome guy]

Hi, thanks Jim, I definately was drugged by some chemical agent at the time of the robbery

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[Jim]

Hi, thanks Jim, I definitely was drugged by some chemical agent at the time of the robbery

How do you know that? Did you have toxicology scans? How was it administered?

 

[motorhome guy]

Hi chris, i'm unsure if you are saying you thought it was some kind of anaesthetic used or you had been drinking and it felt like a drinking hangover, how long did the state last for, many thanks

 

[Armytwowheels]

What a horrible experience, were blood samples taken from you and your partner the next day? I would have thought that would have shown what if anything was used against you.

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[Jim]

While this is often used as an explanation as to why people didn't wake up during a robbery A French police officer confirmed last week they have NEVER had a confirmed case of gas attack robbery in France.

 

[motorhome guy]

Hi Jim, I know it by how I felt for the subsequent week after the event, the 3 day headache and week long stool discolouration and paleness of skin and lack of sharpness of motor skills. some toxin entered our bodies for that to happen to us both and exhibit the same symptoms. i didn't order a toxicology report because we just wanted to get home asap and don't want to hag round french hospitals incurring costs and hassles,i realise it would have been prudent but at the time we just wanted to get safe as quickly as possible. funnily enough the police tried to dissuade us from us thinking it was a gas attack which made me wonder about chloroform after the robber breaking in. neither of us had been drinking or had any contact with other people that day.

 

[Judge Mental]

Hi, thanks Jim, I definately was drugged by some chemical agent at the time of the robbery

Was this established in a hospital? If yes what was used? Sorry... dont believe a word of it without medical evidence

Ex military drones the latest fiendishly clever tool of these cunning miscreants!
They prize the roof lights open and fish out your valuables with fishing line and hook..be careful out there funsters!

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[Techno]

Now begs the question......Funster or read only ?

 

[magicsurfbus]

Whilst I remain highly sceptical about the notion of someone filling a MH with anaesthetic gas through vents or aircon, I can't help thinking there must be a way of putting someone into a stupor if you can get close enough to their face with chloroform or an aerosol of some substance or other, ie through an open window. The botched attempt at rescuing terrorists' hostages from a Russian cinema some years ago shows that narcotic gasses do exist, although that particular one was a massive failure in a large enclosed space. Also, bear in mind the soporific effects of aerosol-based solvent abuse among youngsters - one of my ex-pupils died from that a few years ago.

However, that said, there has yet to be a case of the occupant(s) of a truck, tent, or motorhome being found dead from the effects of narcotic gas. Of course I don't wish that on anyone and hope it stays that way, but it's hard to believe all these amateur nocturnal anaesthetists are creeping around without one or two of them getting it wrong.

 

[Jim]

Hi Jim, I know it by how I felt for the subsequent week after the event, the 3 day headache and week long stool discolouration and paleness of skin and lack of sharpness of motor skills. some toxin entered our bodies for that to happen to us both and exhibit the same symptoms. i didn't order a toxicology report because we just wanted to get home asap and don't want to hag round french hospitals incurring costs and hassles,i realise it would have been prudent but at the time we just wanted to get safe as quickly as possible. funnily enough the police tried to dissuade us from us thinking it was a gas attack which made me wonder about chloroform after the robber breaking in. neither of us had been drinking or had any contact with other people that day.

Hi, I wouldn't be to quick to assume you were drugged, much more likely that you had a fever type bug that just happened to coincide with your robbery. For me at least, had you said you were robbed by aliens that would be as believable as being gassed.

Meanwhile, The deadlocks are a good idea. I hope you didn't lose too much and your insurers played ball.

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[Clickem]

Hi

Sorry to hear about your experience

How was entry effected into your van?
Did the other vans also complain of feeling ill?

 

[Glandwr]

I'm intrigued that you "know how these threads go" yet only joined today. Have you an alter ego on here? If you are convinced of your experience you might be in fear of ridicule I know.

Dick

 

[Judge Mental]

Now begs the question......Funster or read only ?

I feel we are being led by the nose waiting for the punchline... Chemical alarm perhaps?lol

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[irnbru]

Can you name the aire it happened at please?

 

[Scattycat]

Hi, I wouldn't be to quick to assume you were drugged, much more likely that you had a fever type bug that just happened to coincide with your robbery. For me at least, had you said you were robbed by aliens that would be as believable as being gassed.

Meanwhile, The deadlocks are a good idea. I hope you didn't lose too much and your insurers played ball.

Hey Jim, great leader.
Don't knock the Alien aspect.
My great great grandfather reckoned he came to earth from the planet Zog on a supped up Honda 90 step through. He reckoned he could walk through solid walls an render folks unconcious by sprinkeling
Blue space dust on their head.
Honest guv' would I lie to you?

 

[Judge Mental]

It happened to me.

I woke feeling groggy and had my mobile and £2000 cash taken while we slept.

Its happening to me next week on way home from Italy!...do you think its to early to put claim in?

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[chaser]

Just scrolling down to reply and seen Jim has the same idea already, aliens definitely I can see a book coming out of this.

 

[motorhome guy1]

Hi, thanks for the replies, the account said i could no longer reply to the thread so i hope a moderator would be kind enough to link or move this reply appropriately.

I'm not trying to get into any debate over gas attacks, i wanted to reach out to other people who have had this experience to try and discern the symptoms experienced and possible strategies used by the robbers to know what to look out for. I have read other reports in various forums as i really wanted to understand what had happened as i realise it is not common to be disturbed and semi conscious during the robbery itself. i hope this account can shed more light on the symptoms experienced to understand how they can render you unconscious and unable to move or speak.

for example one thing that puzzled me was the light rain i heard prior to someone shining a torch through the window, it could have been the robbers disturbing the vehicle to get you to open a curtain so they can then look inside. i'm hoping that a discussion of similar events could lead to knowledge of what to look for and how to protect yourself. ie don't open any curtains when suspicious sounds are going on, or be sure to close them again if you think there is someone around. this wasn't obvious at first to me, now i will always make sure they can't see in as it gives them information

with respect to the other campers that were robbed, yes they were also suffering from disorientation and headaches etc, they managed to hit at least 4 campers which makes the suggestion that it was much more likely to be symptoms of flu not really a serious suggestion. besides which i didn't feel any flu like symptoms, as i said before it felt like i had been drugged and couldn't really move or speak whilst the attack was happening. this may indicate the dosage and type of chemical used, the syptoms of stool discolouration and 3 day headache would also possibly help. i didn't have a temperature or blocked nose etc associated with flu either, but as i said originally this is an effort to hear of others accounts of aneasthetic agents used in a robbery. if you feel i am trying to make anything up or start a debate on the existence of such attacks yo couldn't be more wrong. Other people have had these experiences, i have read them on these and similar forums, i would like them to get in touch with me.

i am not asking skeptics to believe my experience, or tell me what it was or wasn't or more likely to have been, i would appreciate those posts to be kept to a minimum, it just clouds the genuine attempt to colate information and further understanding. If the moderators feel this is an inappropriate forum to do this then just say that and i will find somewhere else. and a note for any less than supportive posters, the attack was truly terrifying, i don't scare easily but to be effectivly paralysed and semi conscious during a robbery is not something to be taken lightly, i understand the need to alleviate fear with humour but as i said before i would prefer if you respected this genuine attempt to reach out to fellow campers who have had a similar experience and understand more, many thanks

 

[Bobby22]

Can you name the aire it happened at please?

Don't you worry yourself.....it is all bunkum.......enjoy your trip to france.....keep valuables hidden out the way......its unusual for aires to be reported.....its normally service areas.

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[Don Quixote]

I feel for you, but if a top racing driver states that he was gassed, but was not tested by his employer or the police for sign of inhalation into blood stream then it's a myth.
If this was possible, why are the police not pursuing this subject as a "drug" of sorts is being used. Why did the racing driver make the news and then we hear nothing about any follow up by ANY newspaper or news station.

Again I'm sorry you get broken into, but that's all you WERE BROKEN INTO...... BUST.

Good luck for the future and I hope it never happens to you again.

 

[Bobby22]

You should pay your subscriptions if you really want to enjoy the forum......for only £10 using a new name isn't cricket.

 

[Judge Mental]

Just scrolling down to reply and seen Jim has the same idea already, aliens definitely I can see a book coming out of this.

A movie maybe?

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[Kool Kroozer]

I think its very wrong for others who were not there to assume the victim was pissed/had a bug or whatever, some people would rather believe police/politicians than victims events, I know a guy who runs a haulage company in Rugeley Staffordshire and he had a contract with a caravan company to transport these small caravans onto the continent via France, he used to take around 6 at a time on one large trailer, his wife used to do the same trip with the same amount of caravans, he ended up giving the contract up in the end as they were gassed 3 times over a period of a few years, the last time they took the caravans on the trailer too ! one time he woke up with the cab window smashed - robbed - he got out and ran over to his wifes truck and she was still out (unconscious) with the window smashed and robbed too, every time in France ! when he first told me i must say i found it hard to believe, but actually knowing this fella for some years its not something he would make up - or give up a well paid contract which was his bread and butter ... oh and he and his wife are teetotalers !

 

[Don Quixote]

@motorhome guy1 - I hope you will understand my next remark, but your first post is about gassing, you don't say were in France - you don't say anything about a police report - you do not say if you set your alarm.
The thing is who are you - could you be a reporter looking for an angle on this subject and using members here to quote their experiences or not as the case my be.
Sorry to be so negative towards a new member, but looking from the third person perspective looks a bit fishy to me.

 

[Judge Mental]

Just scrolling down to reply and seen Jim has the same idea already, aliens definitely I can see a book coming out of this.

A movie maybe?

Hi, thanks for the replies, the account said i could no longer reply to the thread so i hope a moderator would be kind enough to link or move this reply appropriately.

I'm not trying to get into any debate over gas attacks, i wanted to reach out to other people who have had this experience to try and discern the symptoms experienced and possible strategies used by the robbers to know what to look out for. I have read other reports in various forums as i really wanted to understand what had happened as i realise it is not common to be disturbed and semi conscious during the robbery itself. i hope this account can shed more light on the symptoms experienced to understand how they can render you unconscious and unable to move or speak.

for example one thing that puzzled me was the light rain i heard prior to someone shining a torch through the window, it could have been the robbers disturbing the vehicle to get you to open a curtain so they can then look inside. i'm hoping that a discussion of similar events could lead to knowledge of what to look for and how to protect yourself. ie don't open any curtains when suspicious sounds are going on, or be sure to close them again if you think there is someone around. this wasn't obvious at first to me, now i will always make sure they can't see in as it gives them information

with respect to the other campers that were robbed, yes they were also suffering from disorientation and headaches etc, they managed to hit at least 4 campers which makes the suggestion that it was much more likely to be symptoms of flu not really a serious suggestion. besides which i didn't feel any flu like symptoms, as i said before it felt like i had been drugged and couldn't really move or speak whilst the attack was happening. this may indicate the dosage and type of chemical used, the syptoms of stool discolouration and 3 day headache would also possibly help. i didn't have a temperature or blocked nose etc associated with flu either, but as i said originally this is an effort to hear of others accounts of aneasthetic agents used in a robbery. if you feel i am trying to make anything up or start a debate on the existence of such attacks yo couldn't be more wrong. Other people have had these experiences, i have read them on these and similar forums, i would like them to get in touch with me.

i am not asking skeptics to believe my experience, or tell me what it was or wasn't or more likely to have been, i would appreciate those posts to be kept to a minimum, it just clouds the genuine attempt to colate information and further understanding. If the moderators feel this is an inappropriate forum to do this then just say that and i will find somewhere else. and a note for any less than supportive posters, the attack was truly terrifying, i don't scare easily but to be effectivly paralysed and semi conscious during a robbery is not something to be taken lightly, i understand the need to alleviate fear with humour but as i said before i would prefer if you respected this genuine attempt to reach out to fellow campers who have had a similar experience and understand more, many thanks

Paralysed now is it?..WOW! And you never sort medical attention makes no sense whatsoever...please do me a favour.


Def aliens i recon what with the rain !?!?(unusual that in France)

shinning lights?!?!(on a campsite or aire...inexplicable! Wheres my torch Mrs!)

Real spooky

All the classic signs of trolling..drip feeding information.

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