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shano118

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hi, I've been reading alot of the treads,
At the moment our new motorhome has 2 13kg (uk bottles), now do i go for 2 11kg gaslow or just 1 .? our plans are going to europe for 1 year from july. also where in west sussex area will i find someone to fit them? also what sort of prices am i looking at?
thanks
 

MikeandCarolyn

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If you search 'Gaslow' on here you should find several threads.
Personally I belong to the 'Underslung Fixed Tank' brigade (y)
I use the storage space thus gained for many things.

Who mentioned 'where do you carry your spare wheel ' that's another subject lol
 

scotjimland

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For extended travel I suggest twin 11kg as LPG stations are not always close at hand in every country, .. so two bottles lasts longer between fills..

I just recently fitted 2 x11kg with auto changeover.. could have saved a few pounds with a manual valve.. personal choice.

I also fitted a remote fill point as it has been reported that some garages have refused filling when filler inside locker

http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/forum...-bottles-in-a-hymer-b644.106145/#post-1380359


No idea on fitting costs.. but no more than two hours labour

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We have two 11kg bottles but could probably happily manage with one as we usually have ehu in the winter. Your gas will last for ages in the summer just running fridge and water heater but in the winter you can use a bottle in a couple of days.

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Robert Clark

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We bought two 6kg (11 litre) Gasit bottles complete with fittings and auto changeover valves for about £250 - fitting was about £100
Compared with dealer price of £800 for Gaslow for the same bottles, just painted a different colour
 

Lenny HB

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We have two 11kg bottles but could probably happily manage with one as we usually have ehu in the winter. Your gas will last for ages in the summer just running fridge and water heater but in the winter you can use a bottle in a couple of days.
Everyone's gas use is different, we have 2 x 13kg Alugas re-fillables one bottle lasts us less than 3 weeks in summer.
 

scotjimland

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Gaslow for the same bottles, just painted a different colour

that may have been the case with the old Gaslow bottles.. not now, the new Gaslow R67 bottles are I believe to comply with French legislation that refillable cylinders should be classifieds as tanks and should adhere to standard R67

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Robert Clark

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that may have been the case with the old Gaslow bottles.. not now, the new Gaslow R67 bottles are I believe to comply with French legislation that refillable cylinders should be classifieds as tanks and should adhere to standard R67
Hi Jim
According to the Gas-it website their bottles are also R67 (whatever that means)
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Robert Clark

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I think it's just the 18kg bottle that is R67 .. ? that's a big boy :LOL:
Hi Jim
What's this R67 about then?
Looking on the Gaslow website they describe R67 in terms of shutting off the filler at 80%, however my Gas-it bottles do this too

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scotjimland

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Hi Jim
What's this R67 about then?
Looking on the Gaslow website they describe R67 in terms of shutting off the filler at 80%, however my Gas-it bottles do this too

only what I've read in the Gaslow site ..

Refillables....
...are they cylinders or tanks?

The Gaslow view has always been they are cylinders
and therefore they are manufactured to the cylinder
standard EN1442:2006. The UK LPGA also took the
same view and agreed with us that refillables are
closer to a cylinder than a tank. The reason is - the
only difference between a Gaslow and a standard
cylinder is that ours have 2 valve holes. One is for
the service valve which has the on/off tap and
connects to the regulator and the other is for the
filler valve which prevents filling over 80%. By
doing this we have technically created a hybrid
cylinder.

The French however, believe that refillables should
be classified as tanks and that we should produce
to the tank standard R67. This regulation applies
to specific equipment of vehicles of category M
and N1 using liquefied petroleum gases in their
propulsion system. We disagree, but to continue
selling into the French market we have increased
our range and developed a new cylinder:
.
• Multivalve with improved, mechanically accurate contents gauge.
• Excess flow valve prevents full flow of gas if the hose ruptures.
• Internal filter.
• Over pressure safety device.
• 10 year warranty (specified by the R67 standard).
• 11kg size tested and approved to R67 standard.
.......INTRODUCING THE
In the UK our existing 11kg and 6kg
cylinders will continue to be our strong
selling cylinders as they have become a
market leader with a proven track record
and can be filled throughout Europe.
However we believe now is a good time to
address the performance of the contents
gauge that we started fitting 5 years ago
and which has also been adopted by our
competitors.
Since that time we have experienced reliability
issues as the magnetic gauge mechanism
is prone to sticking which results in false
readings - therefore we have decided to
remove it.
However, for anyone who feels a gauge
is important then our new R67 cylinder is
the perfect answer as this gauge has an
accurate, robust and dependable mechanical
mechanism.
R
Gaslow International Ltd
Castle Business Park
Pavilion Way
Loughborough
Leicestershire LE11 5GW
Tel: 0845 4000 600
email: sales@gaslow.co.uk
web: www.gaslow.co.uk
6 kg Cylinder. 01-4006
11 kg Cylinder. 01-4011-2
11 kg R67 Cylinder.
01-4011-67
 
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Robert Clark

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only what I've read in the Gaslow site ..

Refillables....
...are they cylinders or tanks?

The Gaslow view has always been they are cylinders
and therefore they are manufactured to the cylinder
standard EN1442:2006. The UK LPGA also took the
same view and agreed with us that refillables are
closer to a cylinder than a tank. The reason is - the
only difference between a Gaslow and a standard
cylinder is that ours have 2 valve holes. One is for
the service valve which has the on/off tap and
connects to the regulator and the other is for the
filler valve which prevents filling over 80%. By
doing this we have technically created a hybrid
cylinder.

The French however, believe that refillables should
be classified as tanks and that we should produce
to the tank standard R67. This regulation applies
to specific equipment of vehicles of category M
and N1 using liquefied petroleum gases in their
propulsion system. We disagree, but to continue
selling into the French market we have increased
our range and developed a new cylinder:
.
• Multivalve with improved, mechanically accurate contents gauge.
• Excess flow valve prevents full flow of gas if the hose ruptures.
• Internal filter.
• Over pressure safety device.
• 10 year warranty (specified by the R67 standard).
• 11kg size tested and approved to R67 standard.
.......INTRODUCING THE
In the UK our existing 11kg and 6kg
cylinders will continue to be our strong
selling cylinders as they have become a
market leader with a proven track record
and can be filled throughout Europe.
However we believe now is a good time to
address the performance of the contents
gauge that we started fitting 5 years ago
and which has also been adopted by our
competitors.
Since that time we have experienced reliability
issues as the magnetic gauge mechanism
is prone to sticking which results in false
readings - therefore we have decided to
remove it.
However, for anyone who feels a gauge
is important then our new R67 cylinder is
the perfect answer as this gauge has an
accurate, robust and dependable mechanical
mechanism.
R
Gaslow International Ltd
Castle Business Park
Pavilion Way
Loughborough
Leicestershire LE11 5GW
Tel: 0845 4000 600
email: sales@gaslow.co.uk
web: www.gaslow.co.uk
6 kg Cylinder. 01-4006
11 kg Cylinder. 01-4011-2
11 kg R67 Cylinder.
01-4011-67
Are they saying that they changed the spec for selling into the French market?
Not sure how that would affect bottles sold into the UK market
I thought R67 was more about a more accurate float type level gauge rather than a pressure gauge which is less accurate
We decided not to spend the extra for the float gauge as we have two bottles and an auto changeover valve which ac it name suggests tells us when it's switched from the empty bottle to the full bottle
 

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only what I've read in the Gaslow site ..

The French however, believe that refillables should
be classified as tanks and that we should produce
to the tank standard R67. This regulation applies
to
specific equipment of vehicles of category M
and N1 using liquefied petroleum gases in their
propulsion system
. We disagree, but to continue
selling into the French market we have increased
our range and developed a new cylinder:
The R67 requirement ONLY relates to vehicles which use gas for propulsion NOT for domestic use which is what MHers do so the fact that they are R67 'compliant' makes no difference to us.

Whilst I appreciate that Gaslow are producing cylinders with a higher spec than is necessary it also makes them more expensive and possibly 'scares' some people into thinking they MUST only use these and not the original/alternative makes of cylinder, it may also encourages owners to buy new cylinders and ditch perfectly safe and usable old ones ... a nice little earner for Gaslow!

Maybe I'm being too scenical/suspicious! :rolleyes:

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Minxy

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Hi Jim
According to the Gas-it website their bottles are also R67 (whatever that means)
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Its just the 18kg and 21kg ones at present but as I've already said it is NOT a requirement for domestic gas usage. Some of the gas pipes Gas-it supply are R67 compliant though - we gone one for connecting our 2 Gaslow cylinders together - we wanted a S/steel one but they didn't have any, however they did have a R67 compliant one which was quite a bit cheaper and has a 10 year life (normal rubber pipes are only 5 years max).
 

Minxy

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hi, I've been reading alot of the treads,
At the moment our new motorhome has 2 13kg (uk bottles), now do i go for 2 11kg gaslow or just 1 .? our plans are going to europe for 1 year from july. also where in west sussex area will i find someone to fit them? also what sort of prices am i looking at?
thanks
Hi Shano, welcome to the fun house! :D

To be perfectly honest it is easy peasy to fit a refillable system if you've got some basic DIY skills and will save you an absolute packet!:)
 
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Just checked and getting Gaslow twin 11kg R67 kit with link hose and 1.5 fill kit, comes out at £424.06 with. Free delivery, that's from Hamilton Gas Products.

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Bertie Bassett

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The R67 requirement goes further than that which has been stated so far. When the safety of others is involved any cynicism is counter productive imo. R67 provides for an excess flow valve which restricts gas flow should a hose rupture, over pressure safety, an internal filter, and a 10 year Warranty. R67 as specified in EN1442:2006 is 'currently' targeted at vehicles with propulsion tanks only but watch this space.
However things have moved on since the original legislation in 2006 and R67 is no longer just a French requirement as it follows a number of EU and EFTA countries fire safety advice ( some, Scandinavia, notably Norway) and legislation ( some others, for example Austria and Switzerland) concerning temperatures at which bottles rupture post accident.
I have a fixed tank but have a back up R67 2.7kg (same size as a Camping Gaz) refillable and a Gaslow by pass hose for emergencies in the Scandinavian countries where refills can be 300 km apart. (Finland now has 7 LPG stations for example all in the South and that's 7 more than there were in 2012!)
Be Safe!(y)
 

scotjimland

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The R67 requirement goes further than that which has been stated so far. When the safety of others is involved any cynicism is counter productive imo. R67 provides for an excess flow valve which restricts gas flow should a hose rupture, over pressure safety, an internal filter, and a 10 year Warranty. R67 as specified in EN1442:2006 is 'currently' targeted at vehicles with propulsion tanks only but watch this space.
However things have moved on since the original legislation in 2006 and R67 is no longer just a French requirement as it follows a number of EU and EFTA countries fire safety advice ( some, Scandinavia, notably Norway) and legislation ( some others, for example Austria and Switzerland) concerning temperatures at which bottles rupture post accident.
I have a fixed tank but have a back up R67 2.7kg (same size as a Camping Gaz) refillable and a Gaslow by pass hose for emergencies in the Scandinavian countries where refills can be 300 km apart. (Finland now has 7 LPG stations for example all in the South and that's 7 more than there were in 2012!)
Be Safe!(y)

Thanks.. @Bertie Bassett better explained than my post.. (y)

my view on R67 is that whether the legislation at present is only for LPG tanks used for propulsion (and not required for 'cooking' gas) is a moot point..
I could have saved a couple of hundred pounds by installing a non R67 compliant bottles .. and if strapped for cash would have done so.. no question.. no one is saying the old bottles are inherently unsafe.. or that those with old bottles should rush out and buy R67 .. but when fitting from scratch, and there is a higher safety standard available that I could afford, it was a no brainer for me..

In life, we all make choices based the best advice available and what suits our wallet. That's what I did ..

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jonandshell

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The old type Gaslow cylinders have a float type gauge too. The needle is actuated by a magnet on these.

The new R67 bottles, which I recently fitted to Shell's Mum's Van, differ in that they now feature a hose rupture safety valve and a mechanically operated gauge.

If we were buying a new setup for ourselves, I would choose the Gaslow product for the rupture valve alone. The stainless hoses are a no-brainer too if you want reliable and long regulator life.

I see plenty of fouled LPG filters on forklifts to remind me of how much of a liability rubber lined tails are on LPG systems.
 
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So, are calor bottles r67

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