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I have a Autosleeper Kemerton based on a Peugeot Boxer. It was new last year and I have only done 4000 miles. I asked the garage where we get our other vehicles serviced if they could do the servicing on the camper and not invalidate the warranty. They said yes, and would use Peugeot parts, servicing schedule is 2years but I always get oil change yearly no matter how few miles I do. Anyone know if the warranty will be valid if the independent garage does the servicing.
 
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not sure about Peugeot but it would be ok with FIAT as long as recommended oil and FIAT filter was used, and you could prove it.

however, if your service interval is 2 years or X miles whichever is the sooner and you've reached neither then a simple oil change with a Peugeot filter should not be an issue.

you could get a Peugot dealer to do just an oil and filter change but why not email Peugeots customer services and ask. what you got to loose; i did just that and got an honest unbiased reply from FIAT
 
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not sure about Peugeot but it would be ok with FIAT as long as recommended oil and FIAT filter was used, and you could prove it.

however, if your service interval is 2 years or X miles whichever is the sooner and you've reached neither then a simple oil change with a Peugeot filter should not be an issue.

you could get a Peugot dealer to do just an oil and filter change but why not email Peugeots customer services and ask. what you got to loose; i did just that and got an honest unbiased reply from FIAT


Good idea, I have emailed them, will see what they say if they reply.
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I have a Autosleeper Kemerton based on a Peugeot Boxer. It was new last year and I have only done 4000 miles. I asked the garage where we get our other vehicles serviced if they could do the servicing on the camper and not invalidate the warranty. They said yes, and would use Peugeot parts, servicing schedule is 2years but I always get oil change yearly no matter how few miles I do. Anyone know if the warranty will be valid if the independent garage does the servicing.

Yes. See http://www.thecarexpert.co.uk/new-car-warranty-servicing/
 

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The garage needs to be VAT registered and use OEM quality parts, this simply means parts that are certified as being to the same quality standard as Original Equipment, it does NOT mean they must be Fiat or Peugeot branded items. As long as these criteria are met you can use any garage you like.

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Service schedule for 2.3 and 3 litre is 28,000 miles. I wouldn't lose sleep over servicing just yet.
25,000 for 2.2

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There are usually specific clauses attached to the warranty which make certain requirements, like an approved dealer carrying out the servicing in the correct timings. However, a Peugeot service centre, on a Peugeot van, can't see that being an issue.
Personally, the second my vehicles run out of warranty they never see a main dealer again. I do all my own servicing, so the van gets a major service every year, for around £90 in parts - nice!
 

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Dont care what they say 10000 miles is max i would run any diesel engine without an oil and filter change...just my opinion...BUSBY.
I'm with you on that Busby, I know oils and engines are much better than they were but there's still got to be some crap swishing about in the system.

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The exception in warranty terms to needing main dealer servicing is that any recalls or updates will not necessarily be flagged up by an independent garage and extended warranty periods (3rd year for Fiat as an example) may need main dealer service stamps.

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Yes but you have to draw a line somewhere that is practical and anything under 10k is avin a laf. Modern engines don't suffer from Swarf :LOL:
it's not the 1970's and these engines do intergalactic mileages as commercial vehicles.

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Yes but you have to draw a line somewhere that is practical and anything under 10k is avin a laf. Modern engines don't suffer from Swarf :LOL:
it's not the 1970's and these engines do intergalactic mileages as commercial vehicles.
Your probably correct but to me it doesnt seem right. Used to run mk 4 and 5 transits in the late 90s,,thrashed to death,,different drivers but had mileages up into the high 200 ks with no engine failures.. Always changed oil every 5000 ks in those days....Old oil was better than creosote for painting fences and sheds...BUSBY.
 

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Well there is a very big difference between 4k 10k and the 25k recommended by the manufacturer BUT it's your money.
My experience is that things run better for longer if they stay out of garages
 

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The exception in warranty terms to needing main dealer servicing is that any recalls or updates will not necessarily be flagged up by an independent garage and extended warranty periods (3rd year for Fiat as an example) may need main dealer service stamps.

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That's a good point, when my new MH went for its first service after 12 months the main dealer carried out recall work which I doubt an independent would have done, if only because it wouldn't have been worth it on what fiat would have paid them. For the saving going to an independent for an oil and filter change over a dealer I don't think it is worth it while the vehicle is under warranty. The law allows you to but if the engine say subsequently blew up I bet fiat would go through what the independent had done with a fine tooth comb to find a way out.

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Got a reply from Peugeot :-

Thank you for your recent email sent to us via the Peugeot website regarding your Auto-Sleeper camper van.

You can take your vehicle to a independent dealership as long as they are VAT registered and use Peugeot approved parts, however regarding the oil change that would be something to discuss with your local dealership.

Your reference is: ***********

Kind Regards

Maisie Bowen
______________________________________________
Peugeot Customer Advisor
_______________________________________________
The Peugeot Customer Contact Centre


So looks good for my local chap to do the servicing. Thanks for all the advice. John
 

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You guys are crazy :LOL:
Also the glee of paying out a wad for service that is not needed is very short lived as the new oil will be black again after the very first drive.
 
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You guys are crazy :LOL:
Also the glee of paying out a wad for service that is not needed is very short lived as the new oil will be black again after the very first drive.
Many motoring journalists (eg Honest John) disagree with long periods between oil changes...Some vans only do 2000 miles a year,,,10 years without an oil and filter change,,,would not like to be the next owner,,,BUSBY.
 

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What is his definition of "long periods"
If the manufacturer says 25k miles or two years that is clear as a bell

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What is his definition of "long periods"
If the manufacturer says 25k miles or two years that is clear as a bell

His definition is 10000 miles..Some motorhomes would not see the inside of a garage in years at 25000...other than M.O.T. So that would be 3 years with no inspections...BUSBY.
 

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His definition is 10000 miles..Some motorhomes would not see the inside of a garage in years at 25000...other than M.O.T. So that would be 3 years with no inspections...BUSBY.
That is why it is X miles or TWO years

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dont think anyone in their right mind would not change oil for ten years no matter how many miles it does. the service interval is 25000 miles or 2 years.

modern machining of engine parts along with modern oils means things are a lot different now to 20 / 40 years ago.
 
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A guy on Fiat forum has done 215,000 in two years and we're talking about a service at 4k (n)
I used to change my van oils at 5ooo miles and trucks at 10000 miles,,,,mind you i am very old fashioned,,,,i change down the box to slow down for junctions and going down hill,,very incorrect according to the experts now days,,,BUSBY.
 
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Been in the business well over 30 years and the one big difference is indeed oil quality.
Wouldn't worry about running your oil to the 2 year mark especially when you only did 4 k so far.
New oils are nowhere like the oils of years ago, they don't absorb moisture, withstand pressures and wear superbly and at 4k on it it will still be good.
Notwithstanding all of the above, I have clients who want oil changes every 5k, and I can't change their minds. At the end of the day if it obtains nothing else but peace of mind then I say change it..... certainly won't do any harm.
Hope this assists.

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