UK Motorhome Information, Motorhome facts, American RV, Forums, Reviews, Sales, Campsites


 

Go Back   MotorhomeFun > NUTS & BOLTS & RECOURCES > BASE CHASSIS SECTION > Fiat
Register Forums Blogs FAQ Calendar Mark Forums Read

Fiat Ducato - Timing Belt or Chain...

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 08-03-2013, 13:38   #1 (permalink)
Funster
 
Sidney's Avatar
 
Funster No : 24452
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Stamford
About Me: My real name is David
Interests: Using my van, Photography, work
MH Type: Bessacarr
MH Model: E582
Years Motorhoming: Since 2002
Posts: 612
Thanks: 68
Thanked 102 Times in 92 Posts
Default Fiat Ducato - Timing Belt or Chain...

From fiatcamper.com...

The "for life" timing chain of 100 MultiJet, 160 MultiJet Power and 180 MultiJet Power engines does not need to be replaced.
120 MultiJet, 130 MultiJet and 150 MultiJet engines have a timing belt which must be checked every 90,000 km and replaced every 180,000 km on Euro 4 engines, and checked every 96,000 km and replaced every 192,000 km on Euro 5 engines.
On 115 MultiJet engines on the other hand, the belt must be checked every 48,000 km and replaced every 144,000 km.
In all cases, the belt must be replaced every 5 years.


Poop! I thought my van had a chain
stcyr likes this.
__________________
__________________________________________________
Good things come to those who wait but s**t pretty much shows up straightaway
Sidney is offline   Reply With Quote
Sponsored Links
Old 08-03-2013, 14:16   #2 (permalink)
Funster
 
hilldweller's Avatar
 
Funster No : 5089
Join Date: Dec 2008
Location: Just South of Manchester
Interests: MH, Biking, watching bike racing.
MH Type: C
MH Model: Burstner 530
Years Motorhoming: From Aug 2007
Posts: 19,862
Thanks: 1,027
Thanked 4,693 Times in 3,672 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
Poop! I thought my van had a chain
You're in a big poop club.

I have never seen any good reason for fitting these damned rubber belts.

I expect it was some "theoretical" uni recruit that said "they taught me chain was out and belts are in so we go belt".

I had a Porsche 944 and that had to go in the night before a service so the belts were adjusted cold.

The latest most advanced Ducati ever has a chain after poor Ducati owners getting screwed with belt renewal for years.

In over 50 years driving I've never had a chain problem, I've had a belt go on a near new Golf and a near failure at the 5 year mark on the FIAT.
joner8888 likes this.
__________________
Brian.

Failure is not an option.

Our travels:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/31370847@N02/
hilldweller is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2013, 20:34   #3 (permalink)
Funster
 
Sidney's Avatar
 
Funster No : 24452
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Stamford
About Me: My real name is David
Interests: Using my van, Photography, work
MH Type: Bessacarr
MH Model: E582
Years Motorhoming: Since 2002
Posts: 612
Thanks: 68
Thanked 102 Times in 92 Posts
Default

It wouldn't be so bad if belt failure meant simply loss of power. I'm assuming the issue is still pistons hitting valves or is it more complicated?
__________________
__________________________________________________
Good things come to those who wait but s**t pretty much shows up straightaway

Last edited by Sidney; 09-03-2013 at 20:35.
Sidney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2013, 20:37   #4 (permalink)
Trader - Motorhome & Accessory Sales
 
Johns_Cross_Motorhomes's Avatar
 
Funster No : 1134
Join Date: Jan 2008
Location: East Sussex 01-580-881288
About Me: AutoTrail Swift AutoCruise Pilote & Hobby Main Dealer. Battle Road(A21)Robertsbridge East Sussex
Interests: Boats
MH Type: Swift
Years Motorhoming: 1995
Posts: 8,519
Thanks: 557
Thanked 2,678 Times in 1,881 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Sidney View Post
It wouldn't be so bad if belt failure meant simply loss of power. I'm assuming the issue is still pistons hitting valves or is it more complicated?
You got it one. its also expensive

Peter
__________________
Get TEN PER CENT Funsters Discount with coupon code funster2 at website check out www.johnscross.co.uk and http://www.fiammacare.com Everything for motorhomes and camping.For free technical advice, just call us on 01-580-881288 . AutoTrail,, AutoCruise, Swift and Pilote Main Dealer. 3 years free habitation services on all vans supplied by us.
Johns_Cross_Motorhomes is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2013, 21:15   #5 (permalink)
Geo
Trader - Funster
 
Geo's Avatar
 
Funster No : 35
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Mansfield,Notts
About Me: Motor Vehicle Engineer Mot Testing Station and Vehicle Repair Centre Owner & Authorised Examiner
Interests: Retired Chairman, East Midland Auto
MH Type: A class RV
MH Model: Damon Challenger 355
Years Motorhoming: 35 +years with breaks
Posts: 8,238
Thanks: 251
Thanked 2,397 Times in 1,578 Posts
Blog Entries: 1
Default

The cost of replacing a belt is approximately 10% - 15% of the cost of repair after failure
If you propose to take yours to the recommended Km let me know now so i can start on your estimate
G
pappajohn, aba and MikeD like this.
__________________
If a Man speaks in a forest, and there is no Woman to hear him
Is He Still Wrong

Geo is online now   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2013, 22:50   #6 (permalink)
Funster
 
Sidney's Avatar
 
Funster No : 24452
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Stamford
About Me: My real name is David
Interests: Using my van, Photography, work
MH Type: Bessacarr
MH Model: E582
Years Motorhoming: Since 2002
Posts: 612
Thanks: 68
Thanked 102 Times in 92 Posts
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Geo View Post
The cost of replacing a belt is approximately 10% - 15% of the cost of repair after failure
If you propose to take yours to the recommended Km let me know now so i can start on your estimate
G
A man in the know - yea!

So the belt fails on the middle lane of the A1.

What happens? Please run me through the scenario
__________________
__________________________________________________
Good things come to those who wait but s**t pretty much shows up straightaway

Last edited by Sidney; 09-03-2013 at 22:51.
Sidney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 09-03-2013, 23:22   #7 (permalink)
Funster
 
Sidney's Avatar
 
Funster No : 24452
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: Stamford
About Me: My real name is David
Interests: Using my van, Photography, work
MH Type: Bessacarr
MH Model: E582
Years Motorhoming: Since 2002
Posts: 612
Thanks: 68
Thanked 102 Times in 92 Posts
Default

No need, found this...

All the various Iveco engines fitted to the Ducato are known as interferance engines that means in the event of belt failure piston to valve contact is likely. A compression test is one way to show any damage without removing the cylinder head.

Could be worse I suppose...
__________________
__________________________________________________
Good things come to those who wait but s**t pretty much shows up straightaway
Sidney is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-03-2013, 05:17   #8 (permalink)
Read Only Funster
 
chesterfield hooligan's Avatar
 
Funster No : 6657
Join Date: May 2009
Location: Chesterfield
Interests: Fishing and Travel, MOTO GP
MH Type: Van conversion
MH Model: Sprinter
Years Motorhoming: 18 Months
Posts: 1,005
Thanks: 1,026
Thanked 129 Times in 117 Posts
Default

having had a few Mercedes Sprinters 2.9s although I would say the best engine in different bhp all have had a timing chain but and there is always a but there is a small problem with the bottom sprocket at 150000m I was advised this by a Mercedes comercial mechanic who I know well not a big job 300 then good to go for another 150000m I have had all mine done I have a 316 which has done 360000m and still runs like a dream although limited to 80mph

in larger print for the hard of hearing
tick59 likes this.
chesterfield hooligan is offline   Reply With Quote
Reply

Tags
timing belt, timing chain

Thread Tools
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are Off



Design by vBSkinworks
 
 
MotorhomeFun Shop
Autogas2000 -Refillable LPG solutions for the Motorhome
Get a free giffgaff Sim
Friendly professional service from qualified technicians
Pure Water From Your Tank
Free Fun Stickers
Don't buy a Motorhome before you read this guide
Johns Cross Motorcaravans
Garage run by Geo