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Old 06-08-2007, 10:49 PM   #11 (permalink)
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Old 06-08-2007, 10:57 PM   #13 (permalink)
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I think we will let this run a while so more members get to see it before we do anything, What do you think? Give it till the weekend?
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:37 PM   #15 (permalink)
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This 'everyone is a member' tag may stop newbies feeling that there are cliques on here.
But there are? Which is nearly always the way with forums?

I mean, one only has to look at the "members list" to realise what goes on behind the scenes? Listing members under "A" for example shows..

"anominus" joined on 27th July and is a member. Yet "Artona" joined 4 days later and is a founder member?

Listing members under "B" shows..

"Boffin" joined on the 22nd July and is only a member. Yet "Blondi" who joined 4 days later gets Founder Member status?

And so it goes on?

The Notice Board originally stated the first few members who joined would be founder members. Yet that can't be true because some folk got "founder member" status who joined AFTER other folk who didn't?

It just depends on who you are you see.. clique brigade or not :-)

There is also some bad wording around on posts which doesn't help to dissolve this member status rubbish. I.E...

A Grand Opening Meet with Date Poll

The post opens with..

I propose that we have a get-together for us "Founder Members"

Like I pointed out to Kands via PM, that means I am not invited then because I am only a mere "member" (Can't make the meet anyway, but do you see my point).

I don't want to cause any hassle here, but I am just pointing out how it appears to the non cliques ordinary member types...... like me

If you create status (or ranks) on the forums, then you nearly always create a divide? Before your even up and running you will be doomed. Hardcore forum types (like me) nearly always browse the members list to see who is who as soon as you join? That way you know which members are joined in force and which are not.. if you follow :rofl:

Also, status on forums is defined by "ranks". You may like to remind yourself what that word means for a minute..

Rank;

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1. a number of persons forming a separate class in a social hierarchy or in any graded body.

Not that it will matter, as I am just a mere nobody (member), but my own personal view is that you if really insist on using "ranks" on the forum, it is perhaps better when they relate to the amount of posts that any given user has made.

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0-10 New Member
10-100 Member
100-1000 Regular Member
1000+ Hard core self procliamed addicted forum freak

That way it usually encourages those hell bent on the "status" thing to post more often to gain a better rank

Just my two penneth worth that's all?
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Old 06-08-2007, 11:41 PM   #16 (permalink)
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I think Bryan has made a good suggestion and would agree with him

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I think Bryan has made a good suggestion and would agree with him

Ken & Dawn.
You you have to keep it simple if not at all?

If you want to see how silly it looks on this forum, check this out..

http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/showthread.php?t=256

29 pages of posts, 281 replies, and with the exception of my single post on the first page, there isn't a "member" in site. All "Founder Members", "Senior Members" or "Son of Founder Member". Incidentally, I'm not having a go, but I am curious as to why a special rank has been created for what I can see is one single user?

Cliques, you bet.. but that is the way of forums, always has been and always will be?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for this forum to work (which is why I'm ranting a bit), but in all honesty if you lot are going to create such a hierarchy here, one which has been witnessed and seen on "another" MH forum, then I may as well return to the one which has gazillions of members... follow me?

Nuke will have nowt to fear, cus this MHF will be flat on it's face from word go :Frown:
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Old 07-08-2007, 06:20 AM   #18 (permalink)
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You you have to keep it simple if not at all?

If you want to see how silly it looks on this forum, check this out..

http://www.motorhomefun.co.uk/showthread.php?t=256

29 pages of posts, 281 replies, and with the exception of my single post on the first page, there isn't a "member" in site. All "Founder Members", "Senior Members" or "Son of Founder Member". Incidentally, I'm not having a go, but I am curious as to why a special rank has been created for what I can see is one single user?

Cliques, you bet.. but that is the way of forums, always has been and always will be?

Don't get me wrong, I am all for this forum to work (which is why I'm ranting a bit), but in all honesty if you lot are going to create such a hierarchy here, one which has been witnessed and seen on "another" MH forum, then I may as well return to the one which has gazillions of members... follow me?

Nuke will have nowt to fear, cus this MHF will be flat on it's face from word go :Frown:
Your quite right, no one likes a clique anywhere, least of all in a forum. The founder member thing was fun and productive in getting people here and creating a sense of ownership, whist we are creating the site, but anyone can see that it will certainly put divisions up, real or imaginary, and yes that will mean failure. This is the of course the reason for my initial post. You are echoing my feelings and I think most of the membership, that it would be folly to consider ranks. This is something that we need to get right from the off, because it will be very difficult to change things when we are open.

I don't pretend to be anything other that a keen motorhomer that wants to build a fun community, I am certainly not an expert, or an "internet entrepeneur" and a month ago had no idea about how to build a simple web page, let alone an intereactive site like the one we have beginning here. Membership experience, sign up, and retention in this domain are all new to me, but we have loads of experience on here I am relying on the membership to help me get it right. Unless people tell me what they think and give me the benefit of their experience then the learning curve is going to be steeper that it is already.

Those of you who know me are aware that, I am not easily offended, so critisism I take on the chin with a grateful smile. So please if you have something to say for the benefit of the site and the members, please let me know now so we can address it before we open.

Thanks Wiley for your direct comments, they are very much appreciated
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Old 07-08-2007, 07:32 AM   #19 (permalink)
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if the rank thing is related to the amount of posts left then to me that is the fairest approach
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I think ypu are right Jim. As far as I am concerned we are all "members" equal in status.
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